[French_Canuck]

NYC has all more than Toronto at the cost of a crazy crime rate...

I prefer Toronto to NYC, but NYC has that little something Toronto will never have...

[Dayseed]

Motorcycleboy Motorcycleboy:

Hey Dayseed, what intellectual pursuits have you set aside for your cultural sustenance this summer?

Are you going to be reading the Toronto Sun or FHM?

Hey Matt! Did you know I won the Master Debator award for kicking your ass nine ways from Sunday on this very thread? Check it out in the cultural sustenance of the Toronto Sun.

P.S. Dummy Matt, FHM doesn't have a print edition anymore. My god, no matter how lousy an insult you try and throw out, you still manage to fuck it up. Embarassing.

[GreatBriton]

WDHIII WDHIII:

GreatBriton GreatBriton:

Toronto VS New York VS London

Population

New York - 8,143,198
London - 8, 500, 000
Toronto - 2, 500, 000
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Founded

New York - By the Dutch in 1614 (New Amsterdam)

London - By the Romans in 43 AD

Toronto - By the British in 1793

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Famous for....

New York - Empire State Building, skyscrapers, yellow cabs, hot dogs, Wall Street, Manhattan, Time square

London - Big Ben, Houses of parliament, red double deckers,, the Thames, London Eye, St Paul's cathedral, Westminster Abbey, Buckingham Palace, the Queen, Pall Mall, London cabs, Sloane Sq, Harrods, Oxford Street, Regent Street, Mayfair, the West End, its ancient history

Toronto - CN Tower, High Park, Financial District skyscrapers, Nathan Phillips Square, Roy Thomson Hall

Harrods?

Harrods is in London, isn't it?



In my opinion, neither New York nor Toronto beats London. It's the greatest city on Earth. History and culture wise, London is leagues ahead of America's and Canada's largest cities.

London has got buildings that around before anyone even knew of the existence of North America.

London has just overtaken New York in size (it just looks smaller as it has fewer skyscrapers although a few are being constructed) and will soon be the largest city in the Western world (but not the largest city in the whole world). It's also overtaken New York to become the financial capital of the world for the first time in about 90 years and the days of Empire.

[Toro]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

So hateful....

Toronto still has the largest Free-Standing Structure on the planet. Screw Dubai and Qatar and any other 5 letter long names for places no one has ever heard of with weird shaped crap and apparently, lots of money to spend...

Pwned,

lol

[Toro]

OPP OPP:

Clogeroo Clogeroo:

$1:

Wohoohooo!

I'm going!
To hell with Rome! I'm saving up!

How come you have a Soviet Union flag OPP? Why is it even on here anyway I don't think it is in use anymore?

I noticed that KAETZ had it beside her avatar... and I wanted one too.

OPP may have a Soviet flag, but he has the best avatar!

[OPP]

Toro Toro:

OPP OPP:

Clogeroo Clogeroo:

$1:

Wohoohooo!

I'm going!
To hell with Rome! I'm saving up!

How come you have a Soviet Union flag OPP? Why is it even on here anyway I don't think it is in use anymore?

I noticed that KAETZ had it beside her avatar... and I wanted one too.

OPP may have a Soviet flag, but he has the best avatar!

Why, thank you.

[dog77_1999]

Toro Toro:

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

So hateful....

Toronto still has the largest Free-Standing Structure on the planet. Screw Dubai and Qatar and any other 5 letter long names for places no one has ever heard of with weird shaped crap and apparently, lots of money to spend...

Pwned,

lol

I don't know....maybe Toronto is trying to compensate for something...you know...down there.

[Mr_Canada old]

dog77_1999 dog77_1999:

Toro Toro:

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

So hateful....

Toronto still has the largest Free-Standing Structure on the planet. Screw Dubai and Qatar and any other 5 letter long names for places no one has ever heard of with weird shaped crap and apparently, lots of money to spend...

Pwned,

lol

I don't know....maybe Toronto is trying to compensate for something...you know...down there.

:lol:

Eh, like I always say...

Toronto is bringing up Canada's average much more then any other city has,

[Motorcycleboy]

$1:

Hey Matt!

Whose Matt?

Did you know I won the Master Debator award for kicking your ass nine ways from Sunday on this very thread? Check it out in the cultural sustenance of the Toronto Sun.

You're in the Sun?

$1:

P.S. Dummy Matt, FHM doesn't have a print edition anymore.

I wouldn't know. I don't read it, I prefer Atlantic Monthly. Judging by the fact you're up to date on such things, it's obvious you do though.



Hey, waddayaknow?

A columnist in no lesser a publication than this week's Toronto Star wrote some words about the very same thing I'm talking about.

$1:

Comparing the gaze of two cities

May 30, 2007 04:30 AM
Kathleen O'Hara

I've decided that you can compare the psyche of cities by where their buildings face. Take Toronto and Vancouver.

The former has lined its newest condos along the shore of Lake Ontario. Some might argue that these buildings are positioned to appreciate the water view, but I would suggest otherwise. With travesties such as the Gardiner Expressway and Lake Shore Blvd., the city's lack of appreciation for its waterfront is evident. The obvious conclusion is that these latest developments and the humanity they house are actually facing south beyond the lake to Toronto's idol – New York. They reflect the population's Chekhovian desire to be elsewhere.
Vancouver, on the other hand, features West and North Van looking across English Bay to Point Grey and Kitsilano, which return their gaze. At the same time, the new, sometimes leaky, condos on either side of False Creek stare boldly at each other, some with their backs to the mountains. For me, this almost claustrophobic layout reflects a self-centred, insular city. And Vancouver is just that.

The two cities' major transportation issues support my analysis. Torontonians' transportation debates demonstrate their desire to get out of town. There are those so eager to leave that they want to take off internationally from the Island airport. Others have been lobbying for a "dedicated" rail link from Union Station to Pearson International.

Conversely, Vancouver seems constantly to be in a stew about how to improve its internal transit lines, including the SkyTrain and BC Ferries to the Gulf Islands and Sunshine Coast. The Canada Line, now under construction, will bring people from surrounding communities to Vancouver. It will also connect with the airport, but that is not its sole focus. Staying in touch locally is valued.

Yes, Vancouver is happier with itself. Some would say a little too happy, too unaware of the world. I rarely hear people comparing it to Seattle or San Francisco – favourably or otherwise.

In contrast, Toronto is constantly yammering on about New York (or Chicago) – the architecture, the culture, the people. Making it there. A friend told me he refers to this constant flow of Big Apple news and concerns as "The Latest." Where would world-class Toronto be without it?

This same friend, who grew up in Vancouver and recently returned there from Ontario, told me that his birthplace hasn't always been so self-sufficient. When he was young, he and his friends were constantly piling into the car to shop and play in Bellingham, Wash., just across the border. However, the thrill and need to look or go south has gone. Vancouver has it all.

I guess that's why my own daughter has joined the ranks of those who have moved west. For her, it was the variety of things to do. In Toronto, she and her friends always seemed to be going out for dinner – mundane and expensive. In Vancouver, they are more inclined to go for walks or bike rides – fun and free.

Perhaps my favourite comment about the differences between the two cities comes from another friend who knows both and now lives in Vancouver. He claims that people there can identify themselves as "marijuana activists" and still be taken seriously, even in the financial heart of the city. In Toronto, however, the word "flaky" would immediately be applied. I haven't had the nerve to head to Bay Street to test his theory.


Kathleen O'Hara is a writer and journalist currently living in Vancouver.

I guess it's not just me whose noticed it after all, eh Dayseed?

[Dayseed]

Motorcycleboy Motorcycleboy:

Whose Matt?

Matt, that's you Matt. Besides, it's who's Matt, not whose Matt. I can't be correcting your dummy ass all the time Dummy Matt, you've got to try for yourself once in a while.

$1:

You're in the Sun?

Actually, I have been!

$1:

I wouldn't know. I don't read it,

Oh, I'm sure the list of things you don't read is much, much, much, much, much, much longer. Don't be hesitant to list all of those periodicals what tax you too much.

$1:

I prefer Atlantic Monthly.

You're comparing FHM to the Atlantic? Judging by the fact there's not a comparison to be made, it's obvious you don't read either magazine. And you claim to read the Atlantic? Bah, I know you too well Matt, you pulled that one out of your ass. Just like you've read "Last Day of a Condemned Man" eh?

$1:

Judging by the fact you're up to date on such things, it's obvious you do though.

I'm more of a Maxim-dude. But FHM wasn't bad.

$1:

Hey, waddayaknow?

A columnist in no lesser a publication than this week's Toronto Star wrote some words about the very same thing I'm talking about.

So?

$1:

I guess it's not just me whose noticed it after all, eh Dayseed?

Who HAS noticed it. Jumping fucking Jesus Dummy Matt. Maybe you could read those issues of the Atlantic, eh?

And honestly Matt, try harder. Your heart just isn't in this like it once was. Are you eating well? Do you have a happy home life? I miss the old Dummy Matt that fucked up and fought hard against reality rather than the new Dummy Matt who fucks up and then just folds.

Where's the fire Dummy Matt?

[Motorcycleboy]

Glad to see you're back Dayseed. Where were you all this time? Enjoying a typical Toronto cultural event, like the "Big Momma's House/Big Momma's House 2" Movie Marathon at Silver City Yorkdale!

Man, I bet Woody Allen or Andy Warhol would've jumped at a chance to join you for that treat!

$1:

You're comparing FHM to the Atlantic?

Uhhhhh, no. Where did you get that idea?

$1:

And you claim to read the Atlantic? Bah, I know you too well Matt, you pulled that one out of your ass. Just like you've read "Last Day of a Condemned Man" eh?

Yes. I read the Atlantic regularly, have read FHM and did read Hugo's "Last Day of a Condemned Man."

Say, have you found the CC section dealing with "Breach of the Peace" yet? It's not a BAIL CONDITION Dayseed, it's an actual arrest. Did you know that?

$1:

I'm more of a Maxim-dude. But FHM wasn't bad.

Nice dodge about the article quoted.

Bye bye Dayseed. Another win for the.....



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MOTORCYCLEBOY!

[Arctic_Menace]

$1:

GREAT, ALL KNOWING, ALL SEEING MOTORCYLCEBOY!

NO ONE CAN BELIEVE THE SUPERHUMAN INTELLECT THAT IS THE ONE, THE ONLY, THE GREAT.....


MOTORCYCLEBOY!

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[OPP]

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:

$1:

GREAT, ALL KNOWING, ALL SEEING MOTORCYLCEBOY!

NO ONE CAN BELIEVE THE SUPERHUMAN INTELLECT THAT IS THE ONE, THE ONLY, THE GREAT.....


MOTORCYCLEBOY!

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Are you high?

[kenmore]

why do people ,,when referring to politicians have to point out they are gay? we dont hear people saying the right wing,straight john doe....
toronto is no new york city.. but toronto has alot to offer as does montreal , vancouver and Halifax.... all great places... oh ya and gays are accepted in all of them:) cheers

[mtbr]

Toronto is a Shyte hole...I hear its snowing this weekend in Tronta did the boys come home from Afghanistan to shovel your sidewalks