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human
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Posts: 730
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:07 am
Rev_Blair,
When Nixon and Reagan addressed the Parliament, the Canadian GVT's policy was aligned with the USA policy, today is not the case; therefore, it is being avoided to don't enforce a debate that may lead to an early election.
GWB has no intention of creating political trouble to Canada as De Gaulle did, so stop hallucinating about this issue because it doesn't hold any water with the visit's protocol.
Helping people in distress is the very Canadian thing to do without the slightest expectation of thanks; however, the USA ambassador to Canada was very fluent in passing the American people’s appreciation and gratitude. Now if GWB wanted to thank us again, and some of your grand majesty wanted to call it late thanks, then it is in your agenda to say such thing.
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:50 am
Bullshit, Human. Bush is afraid of getting heckled. It really is that simple. In his insular world dissent is not allowed because Georgie is terrified of dissent.
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Johnnybgoodaaaaa
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Posts: 1433
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:05 am
Rev_Blair Rev_Blair: Bullshit, Human. Bush is afraid of getting heckled. It really is that simple. In his insular world dissent is not allowed because Georgie is terrified of dissent.
Bush has already been hekled in Australia before. I'm sure this isn't the first time he will be hekled, seeing as most politicians are heckled at least one time in their life. I'm not going to jump right in on the whole "he's so scared of being heckled" bandwagon because there's so many reason why he might not be visiting parliament. To me, it could just be a meeting of leaders to discuss a few issues and make it look like to the rest of the world like Bush is reaching out. When Bush was heckled in Australia he just said "I love free speech" or something like that, and took it just fine. I think he just wants to meet in private with the Canadian prime minister and leave, not stand up and make a huge scene in Canada against a parliament who is more than likely sitting back and just waiting for the day they can heckle Bush. You don't know Bush though, and saying he's afraid of being heckled is a baseless as saying he's not, and just doesn't work in an arguement because it's not factual.
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human
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:48 pm
Rev_Blair Rev_Blair: Bullshit, Human. Bush is afraid of getting heckled. It really is that simple. In his insular world dissent is not allowed because Georgie is terrified of dissent.
Bullshit is everything you say, it still he's choice to go or not...
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Roc
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Posts: 101
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:20 pm
Pandora Pandora: I just have to say although Bush is a war monger... Would you mind explaining what you mean when you refer to W as a "war monger." Can you make an argument in support to this assertion?
Just curious.
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Roc
Active Member
Posts: 101
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:25 pm
Scape Scape: Anti-American is not anti-Bush...
One can make an argument that being "anti-Bush" is "anti-American" since the majority of Americans did vote for W giving their stamp of approval on the direction they want the country to move.
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Roc
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Posts: 101
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:31 pm
Rev_Blair Rev_Blair: We have every right to be pissed about the message that Georgie was sending.
American also have every right, as does W, to be pissed at Canadians and their message they are sending. It is a two-way street.
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Roc
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Posts: 101
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:36 pm
Johnnybgoodaaaaa Johnnybgoodaaaaa: Maybe Bush doesn't want to address parliament because they are rude.
Maybe it is a political statement as well.
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Roc
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Posts: 101
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:48 pm
Godz46 Godz46: $1: ...stomping his foot and demanding why Canada "was never mentioned". Never mind all the times he DID thank us, and the amount of times other Americans have thanked us. Bush was trying to reach out to the world and thanking them for their sympathy and all Rev can think about is a speech!!!
Good points, Godz. I think W didn't come out and directly thank PM Cretin because of Cretin's undiplomatic statement regarding the election of W into office.
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:36 pm
Nice spam job there Roc.
$1: Bush has already been hekled in Australia before. I'm sure this isn't the first time he will be hekled, seeing as most politicians are heckled at least one time in their life.
The word has come from Ottawa (all opposition parties and the Liberals) that the reason Bush did not want to speak in front of Parliament was that he was afraid of getting heckled because it would embarrass him (again) on the world stage. This visit is largely a dry run before he goes to Europe. Do you people not have access to any press at all?
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human
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Posts: 730
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:44 pm
Rev_Blair,
$1: This visit is largely a dry run before he goes to Europe. Do you people not have access to any press at all?
We see that you do, and you are using it subjectively along your negative state of mind to imply the same FOOLISH rhetoric about BUSH...
What's new under the sun?
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Johnnybgoodaaaaa
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:45 pm
Rev_Blair Rev_Blair: Nice spam job there Roc. $1: Bush has already been hekled in Australia before. I'm sure this isn't the first time he will be hekled, seeing as most politicians are heckled at least one time in their life. The word has come from Ottawa (all opposition parties and the Liberals) that the reason Bush did not want to speak in front of Parliament was that he was afraid of getting heckled because it would embarrass him (again) on the world stage. This visit is largely a dry run before he goes to Europe. Do you people not have access to any press at all?
Your insults aside, I do have press, which includes NWI, CNN, various internet newspapers such as the guardian unlimited, etc, I'm just saying that there isn't proof that Bush didn't want to speak in front of parliament for that reason. I mean, I never heard Bush say that he wasn't going to speak infront of parliament because he's scared? Who obtained this word, and did they have all the opposition parties on tv saying that Bush told them he was scared to go in front, or was it only their opinion???
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:58 pm
Stephen Harper, for one. He's got some pretty close ties to the Republican Party. Every Canadian press outlet. Every political commentator who has had the chance. Do you think these people don;t have connections and are incapable of doing their jobs?
It doesn't take a mind-reader to figure this out though, Johnny. Bush is on a PR tour because he pissed off most of the world and now nobody will play with him. Presidents have been heckled in Parliament before. They were more popular here than Bush is. Bush was heckled in Austrailia and the entire world laughed at him...he lost credibility. He went to Ireland the last time he was trying to make friends and was ripped apart by the press and the opposition. He lost credibility. Now he's trying to build up that credibility again, preparing for yet another foray into Europe, and he was afrraid that he would be heckled.
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human
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:29 am
Rev_Blair Rev_Blair: Stephen Harper, for one. He's got some pretty close ties to the Republican Party.

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