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bootlegga bootlegga:

gideon gideon:

I guess you voted for "against us."

Thank God your side lost.

If Jesus was alive today, he would be a liberal, not a conservative...

So your saying Jesus was a liar and a cheat

No way, he would be NDP running a food bank with 5 loaves, 2 fishes and a large helping of government debt.

[BeaverBill]

gideon gideon:

BeaverBill BeaverBill:

The losing side equates to 64% of Canadians. The conservative side, the minority, 36%. They don't reflect all Canadian views, but do reflect just over a third of Canadian's views. The rest don't agree.

The most powerful man in Canada is now a Conservative, and you're claiming that the party lost?! Au contraire my friend, this is the beginning of the end for the Liberals. The Canadian people have seen the light.

When did I say that the conservatives lost...?!?! Are you too busy masterbating your ideals to read the post properly? This is typically American on your part, and it seems as well as Canadian conservative as they frequently condone and join in this sort of circle jerking.

$1:

Mr. Harper has described Canada as a northern European welfare state in the worst sense of the term. Mr. Harper spoke to a U.S. Conservative group and said that they were a light, an inspiration for canada. That's a sense -- that's speaking to values. He told the Americans that a country like Canada will never have a national identity as great as theirs. He told those same Americans that we were second rate.

If he were American, and running for president, he'd be hung drawn and quartered, and with assine, defeatest, bootlicking like this (among other things) 64% of Canadians didn't vote Harper for Prime Minister! Martin and his cronies, by the way, served themselves and the Americans just as well as any of the past Prime Ministers and their cronies, but you choose to conveniently overlook this fact which is your folly and proves your ignorance. What you really want is a puppet state.

Read the post properly and stop wanking or you'll continue to go blind.

[BeaverBill]

$1:

Anti Terrorism law in the USA has become more Totalitarian. Canada is reviewing our anti-terrorism legislation. Right wing power under the Conservative minority government puts Canadians at risk of similar totalitarianism.

The USA PAtriot Act had been renewed with a terrifying new term. A new permanent federal police force has been created to be known as the 'United States Secret Service Uniformed Division.'" It has Gestapo like powers. Sec. 605 of USA PATRIOT Improvement and Reauthorization Act of 2005 empowers these police to "make arrests without warrant for any offense against the United States committed in their presence, or for any felony cognizable under the laws of the United States if they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed or is committing such felony."

The new police are assigned a variety of jurisdictions, including "an event designated under section 3056(e) of title 18 as a special event of national significance" (SENS).

"A special event of national significance" is neither defined nor does it require the presence of a "protected person" such as the president in order to trigger it. Thus, the administration, and perhaps the police themselves, can place the SENS designation on any event. Once a SENS designation is placed on an event, the new federal police are empowered to keep out and arrest people at their discretion.

This is very bad stuff. It impacts Canadians because under agreements entered under the Liberal regime post 9/11 including the Smart Border Plan and the Security and Prosperity Partnership Agreement Canada has agreed to restructure our police and legal systems to copy that of the USA.

We have just been through an election in Canada in which the four mainstream parties being the only ones with M.P.s in Parliament said nothing, nothing, nothing about any of this fundamental regime change process; nothing, nothing, nothing about the anti terrorism legislation under review in Canada. The Canadian Action Party has been unable to obtain copies of the proposed changes to the Canadian law which were under review before the writ was dropped and now will be back on resumption of Parliament in a few weeks.

No Canadian NGO's have been profiling this legislation. Indeed, the strongest NGO, the Council of Canadians, gave this issue no profile in their Election Report . Worse yet, they gave no profile to and continued their discrimination against the seven alternative parties some of whom, eg CAP (Canadian Action Party), take a strong active support position on all the issues the COC does highlight,and more .

Voters were failed on all fronts.

Prime Minister -elect Harper is lauded by the USA who see him as more Bush friendly even than was Martin, and Martin already sold Canada out with his signature on the Security and Prosperity Partnership Agreement signed by Martin Bush and Fox in March of 2004. Harper has said he would reconsider a U.S. missile defense scheme rejected by the Liberal government of Prime Minister Paul Martin. He also said he wanted to move beyond the Kyoto debate by establishing different environmental controls, spend more on the Canadian military, expand its peacekeeping missions and tighten security along the U.S. border to prevent terrorists and guns from crossing.

All this means is that Harper will be more open than Martin in his acts of anti-Canadianism and regime change. His language of double speak copies Bush. He even ends his speeches with "God Bless Canada"

If I am right that no concerned thinking Canadian will support the Gestapo legislation now intact in the USA, all of us, but especially those Canadians who voted for the Conservatives, the Liberals, the NDP, the Bloq Quebecois have no time to lose. We must all immediately contact our new MPs and demand cancellation of the anti-terrorist legislation in Canada. Even the NDP need strong prodding . Some of their candidates were talking more law and order, more punishment. Like the NAFTA, the anti-terrorist legislation is so fundamentally flawed , is so liberty stripping that it must be revoked , not re-jigged. Similarly the Smart Border declaration and the Security and Prosperity Partnership Agreement must be revoked. All the administrative changes in process by the bureaucracy arising out of those agreements must be halted.We are either sovereign or we are not. MPs need to prove they have not been neutered.

Please read the following article respecting the U.S.A law. It is definitely not safe to travel to the USA any more, or even to fly over their airspace. Arbitrary power is unleashed there. Americans are prisoners now in their own land. Canadians await the same fate unless we compel this minority government to stop it here.

Connie Fogal, Leader, Canadian Action Party

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Well sir, that must be the biggest piece of left wing fear mongering tripe I've read in many years.

Phrases like "Gestapo", "totalitarianism", "Americans are prisoners in there own land", only affect the weak minded.

[QBC]

Someone explain why Canada would invest billions of dollars into a system that wouldn't defend us anyway? Maybe if it was Hitler firing V2's at us the US system would stop them. Most US millitary officials even state that it's an antiquated system.

[Yank-in-NY]

QBC QBC:

Someone explain why Canada would invest billions of dollars into a system that wouldn't defend us anyway? Maybe if it was Hitler firing V2's at us the US system would stop them. Most US millitary officials even state that it's an antiquated system.

What's there to explain, you wouldn't be investing any money, that's the paradox of all of this. You have refused to participate in something a) you are already a part of and b) wouldn't cost you anything.

[fatbasturd]

IcedCap IcedCap:

Canada is irrelevant to missile defence from an operational point of view whether we're in or we're out. Does anyone honestly think that if there's a North Korean missile heading towards New York the Americans would think twice about shooting it down over say Kingston with or without our permission.
The missile shield is there to protect the US not Canada, the only reason they'd like us involved is because were next door and to avoid it looking unilateral. Given all that, we might as well be involved if only to make the Americans happy.

With out a doubt if it made it to Canadian airspace they would not hesitate...to sprinkle us with fall out...and then try to make money off of helping us. It is the American way...put them self first and make a profit.

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fatbasturd fatbasturd:

IcedCap IcedCap:

Canada is irrelevant to missile defence from an operational point of view whether we're in or we're out. Does anyone honestly think that if there's a North Korean missile heading towards New York the Americans would think twice about shooting it down over say Kingston with or without our permission.
The missile shield is there to protect the US not Canada, the only reason they'd like us involved is because were next door and to avoid it looking unilateral. Given all that, we might as well be involved if only to make the Americans happy.

With out a doubt if it made it to Canadian airspace they would not hesitate...to sprinkle us with fall out...and then try to make money off of helping us. It is the American way...put them self first and make a profit.

There is no fallout, a nuclear explosion would not occur.

[Yank-in-NY]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

fatbasturd fatbasturd:

IcedCap IcedCap:

Canada is irrelevant to missile defence from an operational point of view whether we're in or we're out. Does anyone honestly think that if there's a North Korean missile heading towards New York the Americans would think twice about shooting it down over say Kingston with or without our permission.
The missile shield is there to protect the US not Canada, the only reason they'd like us involved is because were next door and to avoid it looking unilateral. Given all that, we might as well be involved if only to make the Americans happy.

With out a doubt if it made it to Canadian airspace they would not hesitate...to sprinkle us with fall out...and then try to make money off of helping us. It is the American way...put them self first and make a profit.

There is no fallout, a nuclear explosion would not occur.

Don't be silly PluggyRug, we would make HUGE profits from the cleanup

[Scape]

Yank-in-NY Yank-in-NY:

QBC QBC:

Someone explain why Canada would invest billions of dollars into a system that wouldn't defend us anyway? Maybe if it was Hitler firing V2's at us the US system would stop them. Most US millitary officials even state that it's an antiquated system.

What's there to explain, you wouldn't be investing any money, that's the paradox of all of this. You have refused to participate in something a) you are already a part of and b) wouldn't cost you anything.

You sell used cars?

[Yank-in-NY]

Scape Scape:

Yank-in-NY Yank-in-NY:

QBC QBC:

Someone explain why Canada would invest billions of dollars into a system that wouldn't defend us anyway? Maybe if it was Hitler firing V2's at us the US system would stop them. Most US millitary officials even state that it's an antiquated system.

What's there to explain, you wouldn't be investing any money, that's the paradox of all of this. You have refused to participate in something a) you are already a part of and b) wouldn't cost you anything.

You sell used cars?

I did once during the summer, never was any good at it, I was told to be too honest. People prefer to be told stories, right Scape?

[BartSimpson]

Fire prevention: It's still a bad idea

Crime prevention: It's still a bad idea

Flood prevention: It's still a bad idea

Severe weather preparedness: It's still a bad idea

Air traffic control: It's still a bad idea



Sorry, but anyone opposed to missile defense has their head up their butt.

I ask, what is wrong with shooting down an incoming nuclear missile and saving possibly millions of lives?

If North Korea shoots a missile at Seattle you're saying you don't want anyone to have the capability to stop it?

And you realize that a nuclear war WILL result from such a thing while if a missile is intercepted that interception will prevent a nuclear war.

Pacifists never make sense. You say you oppose war but then you oppose the means to prevent a war. Idiots.

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Yank-in-NY Yank-in-NY:

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

fatbasturd fatbasturd:

IcedCap IcedCap:

Canada is irrelevant to missile defence from an operational point of view whether we're in or we're out. Does anyone honestly think that if there's a North Korean missile heading towards New York the Americans would think twice about shooting it down over say Kingston with or without our permission.
The missile shield is there to protect the US not Canada, the only reason they'd like us involved is because were next door and to avoid it looking unilateral. Given all that, we might as well be involved if only to make the Americans happy.

With out a doubt if it made it to Canadian airspace they would not hesitate...to sprinkle us with fall out...and then try to make money off of helping us. It is the American way...put them self first and make a profit.

There is no fallout, a nuclear explosion would not occur.

Don't be silly PluggyRug, we would make HUGE profits from the cleanup

Well you could by Canadian made yard brushes, just to be fair.

[Yank-in-NY]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

Well you could by Canadian made yard brushes, just to be fair.

Deal!

[Yank-in-NY]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

If North Korea shoots a missile at Seattle you're saying you don't want anyone to have the capability to stop it?

Some probably don't, it will give them a chance to burn more American flags and yell I told you so.