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mike2277
Active Member
Posts: 221
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 12:15 pm
Thoughtful people realize that name calling detracts from their arguement by drawing attention away from the point they are trying to make. Which, of course, is exactly what has happened.
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 12:35 pm
Calling it the "coalition of the willing" is an obvious shot at eveyone who went with UN and opted out of the illegal war. So, one good turn deserves another.
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 3:19 pm
I still like coalition of the bribed and bullied than coalition of idiots...it's a more accurate description of so many of the countries that got there because their leaders lacked spine. I think it is important to note that this whole issue and the way it is being handled represents a huge rift in the Martin government though.
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 10:30 pm
I agree. Martin, being the wuss that he is, is sitting on the fence. He needs to stand by Canada's stance rather then trying to appease America by getting into "exploritory talks" about missile defence.
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Mukluk
Forum Junkie
Posts: 718
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:06 pm
I love when people whine about people calling them names. Especially against Americans - whom I am racist towards. hmmm wait a sec, is American a race? humph.
Down with political correctness if you ask me. Say what you think, especially when its a gooder like "coalition of the idiots", and don't apologize.
I would never say it in that forum, were I in that position, mind you...but I love the Don Cherryesque nature of it
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AdamNF
Forum Elite
Posts: 1134
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:35 pm
What she said was fine by me. This is a free country and people, even elected officals have the right to say whatever they want.
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Posts: 200
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 1:56 pm
I think this is hilarious!
First we have our own Prime Minister calling “George-Double-Ya” a moron and then we have our MPs calling Americans idiots. I think it's hilarious that we have the US media blowing it out of proportion, however typical it may be.
She probably had grounds for calling them idiots and why should she lose her job for it? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
This is hilarious, though 
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Posts: 21665
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 8:15 pm
I don't think she should be fired. She's an elected MP, and I'm sure the people will deliver the verdict they find appropriate (hint: keep your resume up to date, Parrish). Her anger consistently overwhelms her rationality -- not a characteristic I find comforting in our leaders.
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Posts: 1685
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:48 am
She most certainly should have been fired - the first time.
Who would have thought anyone could make Sheila Copps appear to be the epitome of dignity, decorum, circumspection and political honesty and fair play.
Her background as an undergraduate, teacher and school trustee was under-whelming and besides, every Liberal running in Ontario was elected in the 1993 election. But she showed us what a person who is - in the words of her opponent for the 2004 Liberal nomination Steve Mahoney - “rude, careless and vulgar” - can really do.
Her rising star potential surfaced with incidents like calling Chretien’s Liberal opponents “sneaking, sniveling shitheads,” her profiling of seven Martin supporters in caucus as “toads, dull blunt clods … and desperate idiots” and her accusation that fellow Mississauga MP Albina Guarnieri was “evil”.
As well, she is a rank opportunist, shamelessly shilling for the Palestinian position in the Middle East as a consequence of her riding having such a large, rapidly growing Muslim population. Also of note are her statements on the Liberal Party’s need to “pay off” those new immigrants who tended to support the Liberals at election time.
She really stood out last year when she announced on TV, “Damn Americans, I hate those bastards.” Since our only serious trading partner is the US which buys over 85% of our exports, we have a huge trade surplus with them (which is why Fiffi Kerry has pledged to renegotiate NAFTA), and we were sending mixed signals on Iraq to the US when she played the old, politically proven Liberal “anti-American” card, this put her right up there with those parliamentarians famed for their “ready, fire, aim” speaking style.
With her latest diatribe referring to the Americans and anyone else who supports the US missile-defence program as “the coalition of the idiots”, she went beyond even Sheila Copps in the reckless department. When she made the bastards remark last year, she first lied about having made the remarks and then tried to browbeat and muzzle the press from reporting them - frosting on the cake.
But there is one problem with her “coalition of the idiots” remark. The real coalition of idiots is not those who support the missile defence shield. The real coalition of idiots is those voters of Mississauga Centre who were stupid enough to vote for someone like her as their MP.
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Posts: 21665
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:42 pm
Actually, I should specifiy: She should be thrown out of the Liberal caucus. I don't think you can fire an MP.
The ironic part is (and I know how you dislike irony, karra) is that she is consistently accusing other people of being stupid and yet she has totally sewered her own political career with her stupid comments.
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pillowyoureyes
Junior Member
Posts: 36
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:33 pm
Rev_Blair Rev_Blair: I still like coalition of the bribed and bullied than coalition of idiots...it's a more accurate description of so many of the countries that got there because their leaders lacked spine.
hehe, so true. I can't believe Blair is still the best of the worst for me to vote for. There is no one better, he will no doubt be re-elected.  I would vote for the person who's policy is to stop licking bushes arse any day. I want my country back.
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:59 pm
My take on it is that you are still suffering the after-effects of Maggie Thatcher, Pillow. It's really much the same as us still suffering the after effects of Brian Mulroney.
They set us on a path twenty years and we haven;t been able to find the proper road ever since.
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 10:33 am
What horrible times they were, Thatcher, Reagan, and Mulroney. No wonder everyone shudders when they think about the 80's. Those were dark times.
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 10:41 am
They were dark. It was when greed became good and government finally quit being about looking after citizens and just doing whatever the corporations said was right for them. People became a commodity...just like pork bellies or tampons.
That's going to have to change. Soon.
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 9:09 am
I think once you go down that road it's hard to go back. In BC they have privatized certain hospital jobs, and it wont go back. Employees now make up to $10 an hour less then 8 months ago. There is a road here that was made private over 7 years ago that governments said they would make publically owned again and it never has. The money is too much.
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