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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:42 pm
 


Again.... Hmmm....

Ok... we are not saying Canadian Border Guards ran away...

http://www.king5.com/localnews/stories/ ... 049c3.html

Border shut down after wanted man spotted

06:23 PM PST on Friday, February 10, 2006
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BLAINE - The Washington-B.C. border was closed to traffic in both directions at the Peace Arch and Pacific Crossing Friday afternoon when an armed and wanted man was believed to be heading north.

The border was shut down after U.S. officials told Canadian officials that the man was armed and dangerous and Canadian border services exercised the right to refuse to work.

The border reopened a short time later after the management team took over operations.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:44 pm
 


Ruxpercnd Ruxpercnd:
Again.... Hmmm....

Ok... we are not saying Canadian Border Guards ran away...

http://www.king5.com/localnews/stories/ ... 049c3.html

Border shut down after wanted man spotted

06:23 PM PST on Friday, February 10, 2006
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BLAINE - The Washington-B.C. border was closed to traffic in both directions at the Peace Arch and Pacific Crossing Friday afternoon when an armed and wanted man was believed to be heading north.

The border was shut down after U.S. officials told Canadian officials that the man was armed and dangerous and Canadian border services exercised the right to refuse to work.

The border reopened a short time later after the management team took over operations.


Christ...what an embarassment. God help us if we ever have a terrorist attack.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:21 pm
 


It was the right thing to do......we just had a discussion about this a couple weeks ago.....

They are not Border Guards, they're Customs Officers.....

They're not law enforcement or cops, and they are un-armed.....

They should and will be armed and given proper training soon enough....

It's a shame that they haven't been already, but it's not their fault...They did the right thing by leaving....


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:48 pm
 


Ok.... this is becoming standard operating procedure...

Looks like the RCMP was finally called in....


http://www.komotv.com/stories/41803.htm


Border Closure Delays Weekend Travelers

February 10, 2006

By KOMO Staff & News Services

BLAINE - The U.S.-Canada border crossing at the Peace Arch in Blaine has been at least partially reopened after it was closed late this afternoon because of a warning that an armed and dangerous person might be headed there.

Faith St. John, a spokeswoman for the Canada Border Services Agency, says the crossing was closed about 4:30 p.m. after Canadian authorities were notified by U.S. officials that an "armed and dangerous" man might be headed there from the U.S. side.

At that point, an undetermined number of unarmed Canadian border agents left their posts at both the Peace Arch and Pacific Highway crossings, as they are allowed to do if they perceive a threat of imminent danger.

St. John says managers and RCMP officers were called in, and at least some lanes were reopened by 6:30 or 7 p.m.


A spokesman for the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency, Mike Milne, says the Peace Arch crossing is "sporadically" open in both directions, and the Pacific Highway crossing, about one mile east of the Peace Arch, is also open in both directions.

Milne says he "cannot confirm or deny" reports that officials are looking for a possibly armed person.

The Peace Arch crossing on Interstate Five is about 100 miles north of Seattle.

The closure comes two-and-a-half weeks after the border was closed on January 24th because of an incident in which police chased two men to the Peace Arch crossing from the U.S. side and shot and wounded one of them. The two men had been sought in a homicide case in California, and were arrested.

In that case, several Canadian border agents left their posts because of what they perceived as imminent danger.

A week before that, the border was closed because of a man acting erratically while heading into Canada. Several guns were found in his car, but officials said they believed the man was mentally disturbed rather than dangerous.

The Pacific Highway crossing also remained open in both of those incidents.


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Several B.C. border crossings closed after report of armed man

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BLAINE, Wash. -- A report that an armed and dangerous man might be headed north to the U.S.-Canada border prompted temporary closures Friday at the busy Peace Arch border crossing and three other nearby crossings, causing traffic backups of vehicles headed into Canada.

Southbound traffic into the United States was not affected.

By Friday evening, several lanes were open at the nearby Pacific Highway border crossing for trucks, said Faith St. John, a Canada Border Services Agency spokeswoman. She said northbound lanes at the Peace Arch remained closed.

She said Canadian border booths in the area were closed at about 4:30 p.m. after her agency received an alert about an armed and dangerous man "from our counterparts in the United States." She had no details about the armed man or precisely which U.S. agency had provided the warning.

At that point, an undetermined number of Canadian border agents, who are unarmed, left their posts at both the Peace Arch and Pacific Highway crossings, as they are allowed to do if they believe their safety is threatened.

The walkout then spread to the crossings near Lynden and Sumas, Wash., east of Blaine, so those entries were closed to Canada-bound traffic, as well, St. John said. Managers were being brought in to staff them, she said.

Officials from Human Resources and Skills Development Canada also were called in to determine if there was any danger to the border officers, she said. There was no indication by 8 p.m. when the border crossings would be back in full operation.


Mike Milne, a spokesman for the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency, said he could not confirm or deny reports that officials are looking for a possibly armed person.

The Peace Arch crossing on Interstate 5 is about 100 miles north of Seattle.

The latest closure came after the border was closed on Jan. 24 because of an incident in which police chased two men to the Peace Arch crossing from the U.S. side and shot and wounded one of them. The two men had been sought in a homicide case in California, and were arrested.

In that case, several Canadian border agents left their posts because of what they perceived as imminent danger.

A week before that, the border was closed because of a man acting erratically while heading into Canada. Several guns were found in his car, but officials said they believed the man was mentally disturbed rather than dangerous.

The Pacific Highway crossing remained open in both of those incidents.

Those incidents renewed demands from the Canadian border agents' union that they be given guns.

New Conservative Justice Minister Vic Toews said his party will stand behind its promise to give them guns.

The current policy calls for the unarmed border guards to allow anyone suspected of being armed and dangerous into Canada and then call police.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:02 pm
 


They're unarmed man, what do you want them to do....

When you work somewhere and find out that someone with a gun is coming....you get to a safe place and call the police.......

Would it bother you if if the people working at revenue canada left their post if they found out someone with a gun was heading to their office?

The problem is that we don't have Armed Border Guards, because it is a so-called undefended border....

The guys who work at the border have consistently asked to be armed so that they don't have to leave their post.......When they have the tools and training needed to do the job they'll do it.....

Before then it would be stupid to wait there for someone with a gun.....What would they do, say "please don't cross the border"....?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:29 pm
 


The border was closed until thier equally unarmed managers could come and take over. At least someone has a pair down there.


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Here is a video report:

http://www.king5.com/perl/common/video/ ... utdown.wmv

The video report mentions a stubborn dispute between the border agents and the Canadian Government. The agents want to carry guns and will walk off to make their point.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:48 am
 


fire them for dereliction of duty, plain and simple.
i work in a store, should i walk off the job if i see someone with a bulge in thier pocket that may be a gun?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:25 am
 


These people that are being berated are not peace officers of any kind. They are untrained, unarmed duty clerks for the most part.

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Christ...what an embarrassment. God help us if we ever have a terrorist attack.


Yep, I want the unarmed and untrained coming to my rescue during a terrorist attack

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fire them for dereliction of duty, plain and simple.


They are not RCMP or military personnel and their "duty" is to make sure you don't bring too much milk across the border without paying duty.

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i work in a store, should i walk off the job if i see someone with a bulge in their pocket that may be a gun?


You'd take a bullet for "your store"? Is your wage really worth that?

Get them the training and the means to do the "duty" people are talking about here and then give them shit if they walk off the job for a similar reason, not before.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:59 am
 


I am going to make a wild ass guess about something here......

American bad guys running for the border..... lanes go to the Canadian agents... But the Americans raise the alarm, and are probably blocking those lanes. The Canadian agents are sitting there pretty lonely and quiet, but have been notified. But American guns are blocking traffic to the Canadian agents.....

I conclude that the Canadian agents are pretty well protected, but use the occasion to push their agenda....

When is the last time someone busted through the border? I can think of one guy recently who made it a few yards into Mexico under hot pursuit. Busting a border under hot pursuit just isn't going to work. Even the guys who drove through the Peace Park didn't try to bust a gate.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:21 pm
 


Wow armchair generals abound! :roll: All of you who think the customs guys are wimps, pussies, whatever, maybe you would like to relieve them in the event of an known armed criminal heading towards the border. But don't bring any weapons with you, show us how brave you are! :roll:

The customs guys did the right thing, anyone who is unarmed and waits for an armed person(who is probably pretty fired up) to show up is clinically brain dead! Once they arm the customs officers and TRAIN them properly, then you can call them pussies when the leave their post!

Until then tough guys, lighten up! PDT_Armataz_01_35


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:35 pm
 


2Cdo PDT_Armataz_01_34 Aside asinine comments from people like NDP who obvously can't tell the difference between armed and unarmed, bravery and stupidity, nor appreciate what conditions those agents are under, those fellows did the right thing. I am however particularly concerned with the rise of recent "crazies" coming near the border weilding guns like the Wild West. Moreover, those agents, not guards, need guns ASAP along with new policies.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:46 pm
 


VitaminC VitaminC:
Would it bother you if if the people working at revenue canada left their post if they found out someone with a gun was heading to their office?


This almost sounds like a suggestion as opposed to an actual problem! :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:48 pm
 


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fire them for dereliction of duty, plain and simple.
i work in a store, should i walk off the job if i see someone with a bulge in thier pocket that may be a gun?


No, you should run. I recommend dodging and weaving whilst you do so for best effect.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:49 pm
 


Start lazer tag practice for dodging and weaving...


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