[Johnnybgoodaaaaa]

hwacker hwacker:

read the urls i gave you DAMN

look at the figures it will hurt for a bit but they will get stuff elsewhere.

just like lumber and beef, i was just in the states today and had a ribeye for lunch. where is canada going to dump their stuff ????? mexico lol

Dude, I've seen those links so many times. What I'm saying is not that Canada will not be effected greatly. Dumping your biggest trade partner and one of the biggest markets and trying to find some place to sell your stuff is harder to do than finding a place a to buy(although energry prices are going up and energy is becoming something that people need badly), and would greatly effect any country, BUT the US buys things like resources from Canada which drive an economy. You can't do alot of things without energy.

Look at Canada's exports:

motor vehicles and parts, industrial machinery, aircraft, telecommunications equipment; chemicals, plastics, fertilizers; wood pulp, timber, crude petroleum, natural gas, electricity, aluminum

Now, these are not things which people don't really need. Electricity, timber, natural gas, industrial machinery are things which drive an economy. If the US was cut off from these things, and Canada isolated themselves, it could drive the prices. Think of it as a domino effect. One thing becomes more expensive, so people have to pay more for it, and then other things become effected because people have less money to pay for them, and on and on. Just because Canada makes up around 1/5 of the total US imports, that doesn't mean that them cutting the US off would not greatly effect the US. Look at how much Saudi Arabia was able to effect the US when they boycotted us some 20-30yrs ago.

Basically, the US or Canada cutting each other off from trade with each other is like shooting yourself in the foot.

[Redrinkrat]

da welch guy....I was talkin about previous...

I just want the border to open to Cdn beef and softwood lumber....

our farmers and logging industry has being hit hard...too hard....

now with the latest lame court challenge by some out of scope cattle group in the US....it has nothing to do with BSE now....now they say CDN cattle cuts down on their $$.....give me a break..

[dgthe3]

After reading the CIA's report, i noticed that Canada is still the USA's #1 trading partner. And like Johnny is saying, a lot of it is stuff that america needs, unlike the the clothing a toys that come out of China. Canada is unique because we are so similar to the US. As a result, our markets differ mainly in size but are otherwise very much the same. We export high tech items, as well as natural resources and agricultural products, and energy.

It is foolish to think that America can simply go somewhere else for this stuff, and to think that Canada can go somewhere else to sell it all. However, our water we can simply keep, same with energy and the US can get that stuff from nowhere else. Oil would be welcome in Europe along with much of our manufactured goods. China would love our natural resources such as minerals and lumber. It would take a bit of time to do, but things could get to point where our economy would be roughly equal to what is is now

[plainfieldpain]

I'LL KEEP THE BEEF AND GIVE THE BONES TO MICHIGAN.AIN'T FREE TRADE GREAT.

[rcnsailor]

$1:

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Your borders are closed to Canadian beef for one reason only. Protectionism. Now the shoe is on the other foot and that foot is going to kick you right in the arse.

How about our borders are closed to Canadian beef because they have Mad Cow disease. All North American cases of Mad Cow originated due to Canadian feed and Canadian Cattle. THe single case in the US was due to a cow that contracted the disease in Alberta.

Let's go! TRADE WAR!

read this US Accused of covering up mad cow cases http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national ... 50412.html

dated 12 April 2005 CBC News

Sailor

[PJB]

I find it very hard to believe that there were absolutely no American born cattle that were infected with BSE. Sounds like American ranchers use the three S's Shoot, Shovel and Shut Up!

[kerfuffled]

I live close to michigan and they always complain about canada's garbage like we are FORCING them to take it.HAHA. They don't seem to realise that someone in THEIR state told canada that they could bring it to michigan. I can't blame them for not wanting it there but don't tell them to bring it over and then bitch about it

Also they should try living across the river from Ford Rouge Steel in Detroit and then you would know what stink from another country is like, but hey they never seem to remember that either.

[QBC]

As far a beef goes, Canada should just tell the US, fine, we'll never ship another live cow south since the boarder is only really closed to live cattle. We'll get our own processing plants up and running and sell "ALL" of our beef cut and wrapped. That will get our ranchers back on their feet and creat jobs in processing. US processing plants would loose business because of our new exports to all over the world and that would hurt the US industry greatly. They don't want our beef, OK, ya don't get any.

Our lumber companies in BC are recording "RECORD" profits this year. The US demmand for our lumber has not gone down, but the price sure as hell has gone up south of the border. US lumber sellers and home builders are screaming that the price has gone nuts because of the softwood dispute.