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Saturday, December 24, 2005 · Last updated 9:52 a.m. PT

British Columbia seeks apology for 1884 lynching by US vigilantes
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VICTORIA, British Columbia -- British Columbia's lieutenant governor is asking her counterpart in Washington state to arrange an apology for the 1884 lynching of a 14-year-old Sto:lo Indian boy by an American mob.

Louie Sam was being held by provincial authorities in February 1884 when more than 100 Americans came across the border on horseback, abducted the boy and hanged him.

He was suspected in the killing of a shopkeeper in Nooksack, in what is now Washington state's Whatcom County. Washington did not become a state for another five years, in 1889.

The lynching has not been forgotten by the Sto:lo or historians, who believe the boy died for a killing he didn't commit.

B.C. Lt. Gov. Iona Campagnolo raised the issue in September, during a visit by Washington Lt. Gov. Brad Owen.

"We're still trying to work things out," Owen spokesman Brian Hatfield said earlier this month. "But there will be a statement ... an apology."

"The lieutenant governor describes it as a healing," Hatfield told the Toronto Globe and Mail.

A resolution will be submitted to the Legislature during the session that begins Jan. 9, he said.

"It's always been one of those issues of injustice that's never been made right, and it's good that this is happening," said Grand Chief Doug Kelley of the Sto:lo Tribal Council. "It certainly means a lot to me and I think to all Sto:lo."

Keith Carlson, a professor of history at the University of Saskatchewan, became interested in the case a few years ago while working as a consultant for the Sto:lo. He found records in the B.C. Archives that not only detailed the vigilante raid into Canada, but described an undercover operation by two provincial police officers, who went into the Washington territory to investigate the death of storekeeper James Bell.

"The B.C. police were quite convinced he was framed for the murder. They had people telling them who really did it," Carlson told the Toronto newspaper.

Louie Sam lived just north of the U.S.-Canadian border in a small Sto:lo community near what is now Sumas, Wash. He had been offered a job south of the border, but when he got there he found there wasn't any work, Carlson said.

The night Sam headed back home, Bell was killed and his store set afire. Louie was accused by two local men.

Sto:lo leaders turned the boy over to provincial police, believing he would be treated fairly. But vigilantes seized Sam at the homestead where he was being held by a deputized B.C. constable. His body was found later, hanging from a tree just north of the border.

According to Carlson, outraged leaders of the 21 Sto:lo tribes in the Fraser Valley saw two options: "Ride south and kill the first white man they saw, or ride south and kill 120 whites - one for each member of the lynch party."

"It was on the verge of becoming a race war," he said.

To keep the peace, the B.C. government sent the undercover officers south, posing as laborers. They returned with statements from witnesses that implicated two Washington men, including the man who recruited Louie Sam for the non-existent job and later took over Bell's business. The other man married Bell's widow.

"I don't think there's any doubt but that Louie Sam was innocent. He was framed," Carlson said.

In December 2004, Washington state exonerated Nisqually Chief Leschi after evidence was heard by an unofficial "Historical Court of Justice."

Leschi was hanged by the territorial government in 1858, accused in the death of a white militia soldier, Col. A. Benton Moses.

The court - formed and headed by state Supreme Court Justice Gerry Alexander - did not address the question of whether Leschi shot Moses - after so long, it's impossible to know for sure what happened. But the judges determined Leschi should never have been charged because he would have been acting as a lawful combatant during the region's 1855 Indian War.


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I am not sure what this means... However, sometimes acknowledging a historical truth is the only justice that can be found.


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A very interesting case since I have classes with Prof Carlson. Problem is with a case like this is that it will be ignored. Just another example on how our border was less than secure after confederation and twenty years after the Civil War. Interesting piece of detective work by the B.C constables. Yet, why is it the B.C Lt Governor General asking for an apology and not the local tribes of the lynched person?


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 4:00 pm
 


Don't apologies tend to come from people who were somehow culpable?


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Thematic-Device Thematic-Device:
Don't apologies tend to come from people who were somehow culpable?


Yes.. but, there is value in correcting history from it's mistakes and omissions, especially, after the hatchet job Hollywood did on African Americans and Native Indians. If we don't work out the truth as much as we can, then how can we go forward with any confidence?

I agree that an apology is somewhat strange... from a state that didn't exist at the time of the event. Suppose that it's the only way to draw attention to the situation. Life was brutal back then. People committed many crimes against each other, and lynching was a common form of perceived justice.

Twenty-five years ago, I met an old guy in his ninties who was a teacher in old Wyoming. He said the most disurbing thing he ever witnessed was a guy who was lynched off of a bridge. Things happened that are way off of our radar screen now.

Perhaps we should be glad that we have made some progress, that we don't live like that anymore.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 4:05 pm
 


Anyone left from 1884 can feel free to apologize or maybe even take the rap. Otherwise it is this kind of thing that just bogs down the world. For crying out loud it was 121 years ago!! Who in hell are they going to apologize to?


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I'm just glad that in almost every case of justice and injustice from the past and especially now there is a student or group or someone with interest who sits in a tediously boring courtroom for everything from murder ,rape, J walking non drug/alchohol related impaired driving , child custody battles etc.. and has an interest in finding digging and clawing away to get the real truth .Because far to many people open the daily newspaper or turn on the TV news and the words hang em hang em kill the bastasd comes out far to quickly from the public eye . Amen .....Good Story Ruxpercnd! 8O


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 5:19 pm
 


I bet you the little freak did it , was probably to drunk to remember. and just like now we had no faith in the Canadian justice system and took matters into our own hands. I would not apologize for this. Unless their was sound proof he was innocent.


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I bet you the little freak did it , was probably to drunk to remember. and just like now we had no faith in the Canadian justice system and took matters into our own hands. I would not apologize for this. Unless their was sound proof he was innocent.
Granted , and besides if one hundred people believe this kid was it He must have been a shyster in some form or another but doesn't prove he did it . On Nov. 24th my brother inlaw was found dead in his Van , He was working hard to deal with an impaired driving charge yet he doesn't drink and never did. His friend contests to this and I know it because he lived with us for a year . It was all a situation of Halifax police harrassing a person with Alberta plates is the best way it was described to me . You dumb fuck face I hope you are not an American trying to represent an American BANG BANG ! shoot first ask questions later attitude . I'll kick your fuck'n ass if we ever cross paths . YOU DUMB ASS !!! PDT_Armataz_01_02 :evil: :twisted:


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Not sure what your story is about sorry to hear about your borther in law


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 6:53 pm
 


What nonsense, a governor of the state (which didn't even exist at the time) should apologize on behalf of whom? And to whom for that matter?

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Yank-in-NY Yank-in-NY:
What nonsense, a governor of the state (which didn't even exist at the time) should apologize on behlaf of whom? And to whom for that matter?

:roll: :?
Geez ! Another brain dead person with tongue that does loops ! Try to figure it out and if not I'll come back to help you on it :roll:


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Banff Banff:
Yank-in-NY Yank-in-NY:
What nonsense, a governor of the state (which didn't even exist at the time) should apologize on behlaf of whom? And to whom for that matter?

:roll: :?
Geez ! Another brain dead person with tongue that does loops ! Try to figure it out and if not I'll come back to help you on it :roll:


No need, since you resort to personal attacks I'm sure you have nothing constructive to say.


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Yank-in-NY Yank-in-NY:
Banff Banff:
Yank-in-NY Yank-in-NY:
What nonsense, a governor of the state (which didn't even exist at the time) should apologize on behlaf of whom? And to whom for that matter?

:roll: :?
Geez ! Another brain dead person with tongue that does loops ! Try to figure it out and if not I'll come back to help you on it :roll:


No need, since you resort to personal attacks I'm sure you have nothing constructive to say.
Let me spell it out for you ......."There is many people who are sitting in jails being served justice and injustices some even served the death penalty for crimes they didn't commit all over the world If you were to be served something like this isn't it nice to know that somewhere someone wants to know you're side of the story and bring it to the forefront for your future family to know that there was an apology made so that you would know your past was not in vain . Now just to show I am not making a judgement call on you Go back and read what I wrote and then end it with the first word I started with (Granted). Sorry I took a shot at you too but I did consider it one waving american flag backing another when it has nothing to do with one country against another . PDT_Armataz_01_25


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Banff Banff:
You dumb fuck face I hope you are not an American trying to represent an American BANG BANG ! shoot first ask questions later attitude . I'll kick your fuck'n ass if we ever cross paths . YOU DUMB ASS !!! PDT_Armataz_01_02 :evil: :twisted:



By the way if you are so tough you could have my address so you could come and kick my ass.

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