[oldboy]

Good advice Fudd, no point in lowering yourself into the mud.

[AmericanPatriot]

If you read that post Its says that America has a long time to continue its dominance in this world!


Lets be real we have contributed alot to this world Some of you Canadian try to taint that with your attacks on my nation


What if i ran around talking about!

How Quebec was being opressed by you people and other things!


There is no fairness with your comments

[Rev_Blair]

$1:

Lets be real we have contributed alot to this world

Nobody denies that, American Patriot. Why is it you feel a need to deny the many negative things you have done? Imperialism is never good, empire is never good. They exist to keep those in control on top at the expense of those on the bottom. That's not democratic in the least.

[AmericanPatriot]

Good Response........Rev


The reason we have an empire.........Is basically because the United States has so much domination in the world in so many places.......Everyone talks about China coming close to the United States....It is at least 75 years away from coming close to the American economy


The Reason America is an empire.........basically by default

[BigDubUSA]

Rev_Blair Rev_Blair:

$1:

Lets be real we have contributed alot to this world

Nobody denies that, American Patriot. Why is it you feel a need to deny the many negative things you have done? Imperialism is never good, empire is never good. They exist to keep those in control on top at the expense of those on the bottom. That's not democratic in the least.

Who believes we're Imperialistic? "Rev" not sure if you are implying or just repeating what AP said in his last. Only in America: Only in America......do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: 'Poli' in Latin meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'.
Man, this is what's frustrating. A lot of countries really do believe that we are trying to take over the world. Name one country we've "conquered" Quit trying to manipulate the word(s) "Imperial" & "Empire" We may have to slap some bitches around, but c'mon. Americans don't want any other country. We may occupy countries with military forces, but keep in mind, contracts were signed! You want something of ours, well we want something too!

[AmericanPatriot]

Big Dubb is so right America is not a Empire by choice we just have the power to influence.........We have it no one else has it!


So now everyone wants to be pacifist.........The damn europeans basically invented war...........We just knew how to win it! And dominate it



And dont say Vietnam,Or 1812


No nation in this world would ever want to fight the US head up

[BigDubUSA]

AmericanPatriot AmericanPatriot:

Big Dubb is so right America is not a Empire by choice we just have the power to influence.........We have it no one else has it!


So now everyone wants to be pacifist.........The damn europeans basically invented war...........We just knew how to win it! And dominate it



And dont say Vietnam,Or 1812


No nation in this world would ever want to fight the US head up

No AP, you said it a few posts ago... The world looks at us like we do the Yankees, Cowboys & Lakers. Everybody loves to hate them, but know they are so GOOD, and can't do anything about it! It's not arrogance, it's the truth. Just like the Liberals in our own country, they cannot stand to see someone rise to success, then try to tear them down. But come crying and crawling back when they need something! They blame America first! And cannot help themselves. But we are so Eviiilll! Just like the queers who try to compare Hitler & Bush! WHat comparison? Hitler slaughtered hudrerds of thousands of people and conqured countries! Do you hear anybody complaining about Germany? See the double standard?

[Donny_Brasco]

BigDubUSA BigDubUSA:

It's not arrogance, it's the truth.

Its ok, I don't mind having an inferiority complex as long as our men's and women's hockey teams both beat the American men's and womens in the same year back to back. That a country with only 30 million can humiliate a country with 300 million people at such an important event (on their own turf!!). Wave your flag all you want, we get more then our fair share of shots in at big dumb brother to the South!!

[BigDubUSA]

Donny_Brasco Donny_Brasco:

BigDubUSA BigDubUSA:

It's not arrogance, it's the truth.

Its ok, I don't mind having an inferiority complex as long as our men's and women's hockey teams both beat the American men's and womens in the same year back to back. That a country with only 30 million can humiliate a country with 300 million people at such an important event (on their own turf!!). Wave your flag all you want, we get more then our fair share of shots in at big dumb brother to the South!!

Oh... I didn't even know (like most Americans.) I think we stopped watching after your boy Gretzky retired. Now that the NHL has bought out most of the Canadian teams and moved them here (Canada wasn't paying them enough) The NHL is losing because they can't get the ratings! I respect hockey (It's a tuff man's sport) but it's just not doing anything! We love our football, basketball & baseball! I'd watch hockey if the networks showed more games or if they put a team here in Portland or Seattle. Oh, and I don't think anybody here was humiliated. We know that Canada & Russia are pretty dam good in hockey! Also, "big brother" was a reference in Orewell's "1984" referring to the American govt. spying on it's own people; In which ONLY AMERICANS CAN USE THE TERM "BIG BRIOTHER". Not Canada. But it's nice that you think of us as your big brother.

[BigDubUSA]

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[AmericanPatriot]

Hockey.................We dont care about Hockey..........Its Baseball,Football and Basketball


So what you beat us in Hockey that's your game................


Canadians are real funny!

[TheChick]

Ah yes...I love these intelligent debates of "You Suck!" and "You Suck More!"

It's refreshing...for a minute I thought it was going to become an insult-fest...

Geez.

[BigDubUSA]

TheChick TheChick:

Ah yes...I love these intelligent debates of "You Suck!" and "You Suck More!"

It's refreshing...for a minute I thought it was going to become an insult-fest...

Geez.

we've got to change it up every now & then! We could talk about the Pacific Northwest (WA & OR) and how our bud is way better than BC! Dense, bright green and sticky!

[Rev_Blair]

What about auto-racing? Gonna claim that all for yourselves too? This is a stupid argument. Canada rules in hockey, most professional hockey players are Canadian...the rest is money and marketing. Baseball? How many players are there not born in the USA? A good chunk...again, money and marketing. Auto-racing? Truly a world-wide sport. The USA's biggest contribution of late was letting Tony George destroy CART...he did that through money and marketing.

So yeah, let's talk about sports. Let's talk about what messes sports up. Let's talk about 12 year olds shooting steroids. Let's talk about hockey dads who beat their sons if those sons don't do well. Let's talk about 15 year olds losing partial use of their throwing arms because they pushed too hard in an attempt to get to the big leagues. Let's talk about all the people who didn't get to participate because theyir parents couldn't afford the equipment. Let's talk about the natural atheletes who never got a chance to excel because they couldn't afford personal trainers.

It's a wonderful metaphor for what has happened to the American dream. Doing well became winning at all costs which quickly morphed into getting rich and doing well not being important except as a means to an end.

The American dream used to be about succeeding. That success was not necessarly judged by financial gains. Money is now the sole measurement of success in the US. That attitude is seeping out to the rest of the world. The rest of the world doesn't like it though.

Just to get back to auto racing...when Michael Schumacher, Paul Tracy, Jaques Villeneuve, Michael Andretti, Damon Hill, Dario Franchitti, etc...started measuring their success solely in terms of how much they were being paid we (Canada and Europe) kicked the crap out of them. We knew they were rich, that didn't bother us, but it was not a measure of their success.

Meanwhile I haven't watched a NASCAR race in a decade or an IRL race ever where there wasn't some washed up has-been or somebody's untalented child or brother who was doing terribly but people were cheering for because he had a huge contract. Meanwhile some talented guy without the name is stuck working as a mechanic.

That's what has become of the American dream and it's happened in my lifetime. All that matters now is money, and the way to get money is who you know, not what you. If you want a different metaphor for how the American dream has been co-opted by the greed hogs, all you have to do is look at your imbecilic president and the bastards who prop him up...

[AmericanPatriot]

Rev your funny

Baseball-Best Player Barry Bonds....Even thought there are many foreign born players the best baseball players are from america always will be!

Auto Racing---Another non-sport no one cares


And there you go Rev with bashing the United States i mean its damn near funny...It really is....So American big business is the problem huh? American sports are Socialistic is structure!

So that doesnt work,Other things look at worldwide soccer there is a cast system so that is not right! The crazy bashing of american systems and american way life is sickening and you all should be ashamed of yourselves for this hating!

I will continue to stick up for my nation against Socialist,Communist and others who hate America cause of jealousy!


I am a Democrat and no matter what i love my nation!