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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:34 am
 


I'll be canadian till I die, and if my citizenship is being forced on me, I'll die trying to fight for it.

does that make me a bigot?


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:53 am
 


camerontech camerontech:
I'll be canadian till I die, and if my citizenship is being forced on me, I'll die trying to fight for it.

does that make me a bigot?


No, it makes you a patriot. R=UP


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:57 am
 


Toro Toro:
bootlegga bootlegga:
That is a two way street as there are plenty of Americans who are anti-Canadian. It doesn't show up as much as we are far less of a factor in their affairs than they are in ours.


I have been living in the United States for a decade. Not once have I ever had an American disparage me about Canada. I did have questions about what was up with us not joining the war in Iraq, but not one single time has an American slagged my about Canada. In ten years. Maybe others have, but I certainly have not.


I haven't been so lucky. When I went to Las Vegas and and the US SW in 2003, I got an earful from Americans (in almost every state I visited) about how we were a bunch of freeloaders and good for nothing, and blah blah. I've heard negative stuff about Canada on other trips to the US, but nothing as nasty as that trip. Maybe it has cooled down since then, but that is one reason I haven't felt like visiting the US of late.

Just because you haven't heard it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Like I said, it's well hidden and doesn't rear up its ugly head as much simply because Canada doesn't show up on the US radar screen, except when we don't help them with the latest project (like Iraq, BMD, etc).


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bootlegga bootlegga:
That is a two way street as there are plenty of Americans who are anti-Canadian. It doesn't show up as much as we are far less of a factor in their affairs than they are in ours.


Correction: there are plenty of Americans who are anti- (anti-American) -Canadian.

We get a little sick of people who constantly berate us for not being socialist, pacifist, more like Europeans, and then wondering why our President doesn't make it a point to kiss up to the Canadian PM (Chretien) who openly endorsed his opponent.

Chretien was a perfect example of the anti-American Canadian who thinks that they can insult us as they see fit and that we're just supposed to suck it up and play nice afterwards.

Chretien broke with tradition by endorsing Al Gore in the 2000 election and then Bush returned the favor by not making Canada his first visit after becoming President.

Granted, that little pissing war was quickly and easily forgotten at the Executive level when Canada was so kind to Americans after 9/11.

But still, there is a knee-jerk reaction that many Americans have when Canadians are mentioned and a lot of us think of Carolyn Parrish and how she wasn't censured for her outrageous comments. That she wasn't censured was seen as tacit approval of her comments.

Harper coming in as PM certainly went a long way to improve relations.

We'll see what happens with 2009 - hopefully Harper (if he's still PM) will have the good sense to not take an official stand endorsing a candidate for President.


No, there are plenty of prominent Americans who rant on and on about Canada; Tucker Carlson, Anne Coulter, Pat Buchanan, Bill O'Reilly, etc. The fact that a US presidental CANDIDATE (not from one of the major parties, but a candidate nonetheless) can call us Soviet Canuckistan without any real fallout says something about the level of anti-Canadian feelings in the south. And that was well before Dubya ever came on the scene...


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bootlegga bootlegga:
No, there are plenty of prominent Americans who rant on and on about Canada; Tucker Carlson, Anne Coulter, Pat Buchanan, Bill O'Reilly, etc.


And not all of their comments were unprovoked.

bootlegga bootlegga:
The fact that a US presidental CANDIDATE (not from one of the major parties, but a candidate nonetheless) can call us Soviet Canuckistan without any real fallout says something about the level of anti-Canadian feelings in the south. And that was well before Dubya ever came on the scene...


Presidential candidates have no constituency and speak for no one but themselves. And a candidate from a third party is the very definition of irrelevance.

*Anyone* can be a Presidential candidate down here - including non-citizens - you just can't be President unless you were born in the US.


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