[xerxes]

ridenrain ridenrain:

CKNW just reported that the BC courts have frozen the strike fund for picketing teachers. No fines but no strike pay for the teachers.
A smart move because now this will force teachers to cross the lines or loose the $50.00 per day.
Maybe those smart folks can get a job at Wall Mart?
Write on the board 100 times "would you like fries with that?".

That's the weakest punishemnt the court could have given. If the go'vt thinks that will cause a reaction, they're mistaken.

[Motorcycleboy]

xerxes xerxes:

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That's the weakest punishemnt the court could have given. If the go'vt thinks that will cause a reaction, they're mistaken.

I agree. This is a perfect example of the weak assed, left wing, activist, Canadian Judiciary allowing their political views to affect their legal decisions.

Bart's got the right idea. Campbell should do what Reagan did. The logistics of re-training the entire teaching profession would make impossible to fire everyone, but firing a random number, say 10%, would wake those sucks up!

[xerxes]

No, it would wake the rest of the unions in BC up into realising that the gov't is out to destroy them.

Either way the ruling makes perfect sense in a lot of ways. The BCTF has a lot of money in its banks account so it could pay fines for a while. If they ran out, there are a bunch of other union who would come to their aid. By freezing the strike pay, the court has forzen the one bank account that can't be reinforced.

[Motorcycleboy]

$1:

Xerxes: No, it would wake the rest of the unions in BC up into realising that the gov't is out to destroy them.

Public sector Unions in BC need a bit of destroying. They're just pissed off because they've had it their own way for too long and now the day of reckoning has arrived.

Interesting that since that "evil" Campbell government took power, BC has gone from an economic have-not province to a net contributor to the federation.

Reigning in the public sector unions and their totally unreasonable demands is an important tool making the province competitive.

$1:

Either way the ruling makes perfect sense in a lot of ways. The BCTF has a lot of money in its banks account so it could pay fines for a while. If they ran out, there are a bunch of other union who would come to their aid. By freezing the strike pay, the court has forzen the one bank account that can't be reinforced.

Once again, activist judiciary promoting their own left wing values. Just because they do it doesn't make it right.

Hopefully the government will bring in new legislation fast to hold the union accountable for it's flagrant violations of the law.

[xerxes]

Motorcycleboy Motorcycleboy:

xerxes xerxes:

No, it would wake the rest of the unions in BC up into realising that the gov't is out to destroy them.

$1:

Xerxes Wrote: Public sector Unions in BC need a bit of destroying. They're just pissed off because they've had it their own way for too long and now the day of reckoning has arrived.

Interesting that since that "evil" Campbell government took power, BC has gone from an economic have-not province to a net contributor to the federation.

Reigning in the public sector unions and their totally unreasonable demands is an important tool making the province competitive.

$1:

Either way the ruling makes perfect sense in a lot of ways. The BCTF has a lot of money in its banks account so it could pay fines for a while. If they ran out, there are a bunch of other union who would come to their aid. By freezing the strike pay, the court has forzen the one bank account that can't be reinforced.

Once again, activist judiciary promoting their own left wing values. Just because they do it doesn't make it right.

Hopefully the government will bring in new legislation fast to hold the union accountable for it's flagrant violations of the law.

Dude, I did not write that and you sure as shit know that so don't start putting words in my mouth.

Ah, "left-wing judges", the shibboleth of the right. If you can't see the logic behind the ruling that's too bad. What stereotype are you going to pull out next? They all deserve to be fired because they're all socialists and commies?

[BartSimpson]

lily lily:

Originally the fear was that if Campbell went to such drastic measures he'd run the risk of inciting the unions into calling a general strike. However, I don't think the teachers have the support they thought they would. Some teachers have even crossed the picket lines.

Let them call a general strike and then fire them all.

Then prosecute the union leaders for sedition.

[PostManPat]

If all goes well rumor has it that they will be back by next Tuesday

[Motorcycleboy]

Error.

[Motorcycleboy]

Motorcycleboy Motorcycleboy:

xerxes" Dude, I did not write that and you sure as shit know that so don't start putting words in my mouth.

Sorry, I just messed up my quotes. I said that.

$1:

Ah, "left-wing judges", the shibboleth of the right. If you can't see the logic behind the ruling that's too bad. What stereotype are you going to pull out next? They all deserve to be fired because they're all socialists and commies?

Just because those of us on the right point it out, doesn't mean it's a falsehood. Since the Charter was introduced, Canadian judges have been extremely activist, at the expense of parliamentary supremacy.

Do you doubt me? Look up decisions like Feeny, which saw Justice Sopinka (a civil litigator) re-write 600 years of British common-law and make it almost impossible for police to arrest people in their homes. Or try the Carter ruling, also known as the "Rich Man's Drunk Driving Defence." This has ensured it is now virtually impossible to get a conviction for drunk driving in this country if the accused has enough money to hire a toxicologist and skilled lawyer. Of course, if you're a brick layer and can't come up with 12 or 14 grand to fight it, you just plead guilty.

Or how about feminist Justice Rosalie Abella, whose acceptance of a bullshit voodoo number formula on so-called "Pay Equity" has cost various levels of governments Billions in payouts. There are others. In Toronto, a transit line that cost millions in preparation costs was halted yesterday when the courts decided the city doesn't have the right to put in transit wherever it chooses. Or the recent ruling by the Supreme Court on Health Care waiting times.

You can agree with these decisions or not, but what you can't dispute is the fact that unelected and unaccountable people are making decisions affecting the very social fabric of this country without oversight by elected, accountable parliamentarians. That's wrong.

Either the courts should stick to interpreting law and not determining social policy, or judges should be elected and accountable for their decisions.

[xerxes]

This is not the place to debate about the role of judges so...

$1:

Xerxes Wrote: Public sector Unions in BC need a bit of destroying. They're just pissed off because they've had it their own way for too long and now the day of reckoning has arrived.

This is what I didn't write. I know because I don't think like that nor write that way.

[xerxes]

Thank you for acknowleding your typo.

[Joe_Stalin]

xerxes xerxes:

ridenrain ridenrain:

CKNW just reported that the BC courts have frozen the strike fund for picketing teachers. No fines but no strike pay for the teachers.
A smart move because now this will force teachers to cross the lines or loose the $50.00 per day.
Maybe those smart folks can get a job at Wall Mart?
Write on the board 100 times "would you like fries with that?".

That's the weakest punishment the court could have given. If the gov't thinks that will cause a reaction, they're mistaken.

That judgement is disgusting. Losing $50 a day is nothing as most have working partners. Throw the bills on a charge card and after the illegal strike the pay will be repaid retroactively. Pay off the charge card.
Half a million a day should have been minimum.
That judgement was designed to draw out the strike for weeks and have the government capitulate to law breakers to save the hostage children.

Uncle Joe would have keel hauled the leaders, sentenced them to 20 years of French Cuisine and have them write 1000 lines:
Hehhee, it is really all about cash, not kids. Hahaha suckers".

[QBC]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

lily lily:

Originally the fear was that if Campbell went to such drastic measures he'd run the risk of inciting the unions into calling a general strike. However, I don't think the teachers have the support they thought they would. Some teachers have even crossed the picket lines.

Let them call a general strike and then fire them all.

Then prosecute the union leaders for sedition.

Wow, democracy at work. US style?

[Richard]

Cambell had fuck all to do with B.C's economy getting better. He may have had a hand in the cookie jar but that is about it. The prick has been running around selling off the provinces assetts to cook his books and you people praise the guy.

Democracy? Unless the union leadership holds a referendum asking everyone what they want, calling a general strike in no way shape or form represents a democracy.

What part of legislating people to work without negotiating is democratic? They have had a year to negotiate in good faith and they do nothing not even a counter offer. Now everyone say fire them all ....get fucking real

[ShepherdsDog]

This is what campbell soup will be best remembered for.