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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:54 pm
 


List of Russian military stationed in Bucha (51460). -Anonymous

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The names, ranks and passport details of Russians serving in the 64 Motor Rifle Brigade which occupied Bucha prior to March 31.



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:17 pm
 




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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBJGrd5 ... WL&index=3

Ugh, bad take Saagar has a point. CNN and MSNBC have been beating the drums for direct conflict without a lot of reflection. I give reporters on the ground a pass on the humanitarian angle because they are there but there is a responsibility of the anchors to reel it in. The culture of the media doesn't know what limits are and nothing gets eyeballs like war porn.

That said Russians dying and suffering from harsh treatment while invading a sovereign country deserve what they get. Saagar both siding this was hard to stomach but it was more sober than what Ali Veshi or Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton were pushing for.


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I can barely watch or read much more. This is becoming far too heart-breaking. I'm getting angrier as well. It makes me understand how some get roiled up for a cause. SOMETHING needs to be done FFS.

I'm also waiting to hear more about some extended family that were determined to remain but now seem to be deciding to leave Ukraine. Hopefully soon and safely. Other extended family are somewhere in the process of coming to Canada.

My Russian coworker told me today that she knows some Russian families that are being torn apart due to their differing views of this war.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:47 pm
 


I pray they are safe.



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:48 am
 


‘Insane’ Putin ‘shooting himself in foot’ as Russian population quickly dying out
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Independent demographer Alexey Raksha said the impact of the economic downturn caused by the war will start being felt early next year.

He said: “The total fertility rate – the number of children the average woman bears – may drop by 10 percent in the next year or two due to the fall in incomes.”

The fertility rate could completely “collapse” in 2023, he warned, unless a substantial financial incentives programme is launched in Russia.

Mr Raksha added: “It’s only just starting to get through to people that they may lose their jobs, that everything has become more expensive while salaries have not risen.”


Those that could already have left. That means the young, able with pliable skills. Who is left? The old, unfertile, unskilled. We could see a collapse in short order.


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I can barely watch or read much more. This is becoming far too heart-breaking. I'm getting angrier as well. It makes me understand how some get roiled up for a cause. SOMETHING needs to be done FFS.

I'm also waiting to hear more about some extended family that were determined to remain but now seem to be deciding to leave Ukraine. Hopefully soon and safely. Other extended family are somewhere in the process of coming to Canada.

My Russian coworker told me today that she knows some Russian families that are being torn apart due to their differing views of this war.


I can barely watch or read it either. I understand that the Russian people are not getting the full news but it’s hard not to be angry at everyone in the country man, women and child!

I’m praying for every Ukrainian. Hopefully your extended family will be able to get here quickly and safely.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 11:17 am
 


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBJGrd5 ... WL&index=3

Ugh, bad take Saagar has a point. CNN and MSNBC have been beating the drums for direct conflict without a lot of reflection. I give reporters on the ground a pass on the humanitarian angle because they are there but there is a responsibility of the anchors to reel it in. The culture of the media doesn't know what limits are and nothing gets eyeballs like war porn.

That said Russians dying and suffering from harsh treatment while invading a sovereign country deserve what they get. Saagar both siding this was hard to stomach but it was more sober than what Ali Veshi or Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton were pushing for.


Saagar is full of shit - NATO has fought many conflicts to end genocide and war crimes in the past 30 years. They went into the Balkans (former Yugoslavia and Kosovo) when the UN couldn't handle it, they went into Libya, and they've worked together elsewhere to deal with terrorists.

I understand his trepidation in going full on against Russia, but at the same time, we need to stand up for what's right and not just let Ukrainians fight Russia as our proxy.

NATO needs to transfer Mig-29s, T-72s, and anything else Ukraine needs, and at the same time, we need to be ready to act when Putin crosses the line into WMD use. I'd even support equipping Ukraine with long range surface to surface missiles so they can take the fight into Russia.

If we let Russia get away with this, then there will be potential future conflicts with other nuclear armed nations (North Korea, Pakistan, China) that think they can do whatever they want just because they have nukes.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 11:24 am
 


Bucha killings: Satellite image of bodies site contradicts Russian claims

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A satellite image of Bucha in Ukraine appears to show bodies lying in the street nearly two weeks before the Russians left the town.


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Strutz Strutz:
I can barely watch or read much more. This is becoming far too heart-breaking. I'm getting angrier as well. It makes me understand how some get roiled up for a cause. SOMETHING needs to be done FFS.

I'm also waiting to hear more about some extended family that were determined to remain but now seem to be deciding to leave Ukraine. Hopefully soon and safely. Other extended family are somewhere in the process of coming to Canada.

My Russian coworker told me today that she knows some Russian families that are being torn apart due to their differing views of this war.


Same. It’s come to the point for me where it’s no different than reading about the Holocaust or the Rape of Nanking. Nothing but overwhelming sadness and rage.


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