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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:40 pm
 


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Is what happened bad? Yes. Is it genocide? Go ask the 1.2 million Poles that were murdered in cold blood by the Russians. THAT is genocide.

I'm not excusing what the church did to those kids, I just don't like it when people use the wrong words/descriptions that don't exactly fit the bill.

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Saying that a cultural genocide wasn't attempted by the Canadian state is no longer a position that can be defended. The very words of the architects of the residential school policy underline what they were deliberately trying to do. And more often than not it isn't that difficult to find further words where a lot of them and their succeeding bureaucrats & crown ministers were more than willing to accept a higher death rate at the schools than there was among the general English/French/immigrant population if it meant the goal was accomplished.

For well over a century Canada committed a brutal ongoing crime against humanity. There's no point in contending otherwise anymore.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/kinsella ... -up-to-you

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The thing about history is that it doesn’t stay history. It catches up to you.

That doctor’s appointment you put off when you knew you shouldn’t. That claim on your C.V. that wasn’t quite true. That story you told your spouse that wasn’t true at all.

History doesn’t remain in the past. It lives, vividly, in the present. It comes back, sometimes with a vengeance.

Canada is re-learning an important history lesson, painfully, in recent weeks. In recent weeks, hundreds of unmarked graves have been found behind what we called “residential schools.” Graves filled with the little bodies of Indigenous children and babies.

There’s a history lesson in what we all call those places, isn’t there? There were 139 of them, and they sure as Hell weren’t “schools.” They were prisons for 150,000 Indigenous children, where as many as 30,000 died or were killed.

The Nazis did something similar, for similar reasons, but on a massive scale. They tried to evade history. They called their concentration camps “protective custody,” when in reality they were extermination centres.

So, right off the top, we all need to stop playing semantic games. What we had on Canadian soil wasn’t “residential schools.” They were prisons for the innocent and the powerless, where Indigenous children lost their parents, their families, their language, their culture, their hope — and where they were beaten, and raped, and sometimes killed.

Trying to thwart history, some readers protest that. They insist many Indigenous children were felled by tuberculosis and influenza and the like. They claim it’s unfair to judge Sir John A. Macdonald by the standards of today.

Maybe. Perhaps. But those graves are unmarked for a reason. The religious orders that ran those prisons for children — like my own Catholic Church, more on them in a moment — were trying to hide something. They were trying to erase history. Erase those children.

They didn’t dump tiny bodies in unmarked graves because they had done nothing wrong.


So, too, Sir John. A. He helped create Canada, yes. But he also created these prisons for children — who he regularly referred to as “savages.” And, on the floor of the House of Commons, called for the protection of “Aryan culture” in Canada. That’s a quote, yes. He said that.

This writer is a church-going Joe Biden-style Roman Catholic. I pray every night. And I worked for the Rt. Hon. Jean Chretien, too. Who, like me, adopted an Indigenous child.

Do I need to atone for taking the sacraments in a place that abused and murdered Indigenous children? I think I do. If I’m a true Christian, I don’t have any choice. History demands it.

Do I need to atone for being a Chief of Staff in a government and not knowing anything — not a damn thing — about “residential schools?” Even if we presided over the closure of the last one, in Saskatchewan in 1996? I think so. I need to atone. History demands that, too.

Jean Chretien, who is kind of my political father, helped author a white paper in 1969 that called for the rights of Indigenous people to determine how their children are educated. That recommended big changes, to “enable the Indian people to be free.”

Those changes never really happened. History continued its grim march, and the prisons for Indigenous children continued for another generation.

The discovery of the bodies of babies and children is just getting started, folks. This is going to go on for months, years. It is not stopping. It is going to force a national reckoning — and, hopefully, real change.

History is back. But history never really left us, did it?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 4:07 pm
 


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Here comes the soapbox...

Is what happened bad? Yes. Is it genocide? Go ask the 1.2 million Poles that were murdered in cold blood by the Russians. THAT is genocide.

I'm not excusing what the church did to those kids, I just don't like it when people use the wrong words/descriptions that don't exactly fit the bill.

-J.


If you want to go with the traditional definition of genocide, which is the extermination of a distinct group of people, then yeah it doesn’t really apply.

But what was done in Canada (and other places too) was the attempted destruction of a race of people. Obviously we didn’t build death camps in Canada, but the goal was the same: to get rid of the native population by way of forced assimilation and if a bunch died in the process, oh well.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 4:09 pm
 


Outlook of the Government of Canada to the repeating tuberculosis epidemics that ravaged the residential schools in between 1900-1930's:

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"It is readily acknowledged that Indian children lose their natural resistance to illness due to habitating so closely in these schools and that they die at a much higher rate than in their villages. But this alone does not justify a change in the policy of this department (Indian Affairs) which is geared towards the final solution of our Indian problem"

- Duncan Campbell Scott, deputy superintendent of the Department of Indian Affairs 1913-1932.


"....final solution of our Indian problem....". Now, history buffs, which other rather infamous national government of the same historical period also used language identical to that uttered by high level officials of our own Canadian government?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:25 am
 


'Where is their soul?': Inside the failed push to make Catholic Church pay for its residential school abuses

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Residential school survivor Rick Daniels and his wife, Judy Greyeyes, live in a small apartment just a few kilometres from Saskatoon's towering $28.5-million Holy Family Cathedral.

The cathedral features solar-powered stained glass windows, a carved granite altar, seating for 2,000 people and a steel cross that sits 53 metres above ground, dominating the suburban Prairie skyline. The church opened in 2012 following a massive, multi-year fundraising campaign.

But while all this was happening, critics say another financial commitment was largely forgotten.

Catholic churches in Saskatoon and across Canada had also signed an agreement promising to raise $25 million to compensate Daniels and tens of thousands of other survivors for the emotional, physical and sexual abuse, malnutrition, cultural shaming and systemic violations of basic human rights suffered in Catholic-run residential schools.

"They were told to take the Indian out of the child at all costs, and they took it literally," said Daniels, 73, a member of Mistawasis Nehiyawak who attended St. Michael's Indian Residential School north of Saskatoon.

The $25 million — part of the sweeping Indian Residential School Survivor Agreement (IRSSA) — was supposed to help survivors, and also provide counselling and support for their families.

But most of that money was never raised.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:44 am
 


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Here comes the soapbox...

Is what happened bad? Yes. Is it genocide? Go ask the 1.2 million Poles that were murdered in cold blood by the Russians. THAT is genocide.

I'm not excusing what the church did to those kids, I just don't like it when people use the wrong words/descriptions that don't exactly fit the bill.

-J.

Of course it's fucking genocide. It was a concerted effort to erase an entire culture.


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