[LMW]

These people are insane!!. If the U.S. uses nuclear weapons against Iran or any other country, Russia and China and other countries will launch an all out nuclear attack and obliterate the U.S. Just like the lies of WMD in Iraq by Bush and Co. for invasion, now its nuclear weapons for supposed WMD. The point is these people WANT to use NUCLEAR WEAPONS premptively. This is unheard of. Bush is the president in the Dead Zone movie played by Martin Sheen. "Hallelejuh General!,the missiles are on there way!"<br />

[Spud]

Hiting Iran with a nuke opens up several options for China and Russia.<br /> First they can hit Israel,which means they have hit America.That would be a good thing for some of the oppressed people in the mideast and it would eliminate a fascist state.<br /> It also shows you how scared the Americans are.They are getting desperate.As the world around them rejects the american,they continue to push their agenda,ie Venezuela.<br /> Yet this little country along with Cuba defies them.<br /> China is the wild card here.<br /> What I am about to say,hehehheheh <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/twisted.gif' alt='Twisted Evil'> <br /> You will not like <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/mrgreen.gif' alt='Mr. Green'> <br /> China can sustain and survive a limited nuclear war,the USA cannot. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/rolleyes.gif' alt='Rolling Eyes'> <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/mrgreen.gif' alt='Mr. Green'> <br /> China and america both know this <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/mrgreen.gif' alt='Mr. Green'> <br /> Let us say America hits China with 2 nuclear bombs and kills 20,000,000 Chinese <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/rolleyes.gif' alt='Rolling Eyes'> <br /> It is a no brainer to anyone including the US that China will retaliate <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/neutral.gif' alt='Neutral'> <br /> So let us say that China hits back with 1 nuke and kills about 5,000,000 <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/arrow.gif' alt='Arrow'> <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/neutral.gif' alt='Neutral'> <br /> Now before screaming and barfing up we are all dead.<br /> THINK <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/exclaim.gif' alt='Exclaimation'> <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/rolleyes.gif' alt='Rolling Eyes'> <br /> Who has the advantage <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/question.gif' alt='Question'> <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/confused.gif' alt='Confused'> <br /> CHINA <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/exclaim.gif' alt='Exclaimation'> <br /> 1.China can easily replace all 20,000,000<br /> 2.America cannot replace 5,000,000<br /> 3.Americas biggest fear is death,everyone wants to live forever,China knows this and they are willing to fight a limited nuclear war.The US is not and cannot <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/rolleyes.gif' alt='Rolling Eyes'> <br /> When the first nuke hits lets say LA.The US public will freak,in China,it is a way of getting rid of excess population.Yes governments and military people think this way. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/twisted.gif' alt='Twisted Evil'> <br /> America is not the only country in the world with weapons and intelligence operations <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/confused.gif' alt='Confused'> <br /> In a conventional war China can call up 2,000,000 more soldiers without a problem.The US is already short of manpower.No matter how you cut it China is at an advantage.Remember, the media is not telling you what is going on in China,or what China is doing elsewhere.<br /> Uncle Sam is scared <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/mrgreen.gif' alt='Mr. Green'> <br /> Our government is scared <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/twisted.gif' alt='Twisted Evil'> <br /> There is something going on here.Insurgents?Canada cannot have it`s own foriegn policy?<br /> WW3 is long over.What is coming is WW4<br /> <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/eek.gif' alt='Eek!'> <br /> Ready <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/wink.gif' alt='Wink'>

[Milton]

Where do you get the notion from that death will be limited when the nukes are launched by China and the US. The US admin is considering launching nukes against non-nuclear powers, what kind of response would take place if a nuclear power launched nukes at the US. Very few of us will survive nuclear war and those that do will wish they hadn't. Nuclear winter for ever and ever, amen.

[Mr.Can-Euro]

The American Empire will fall one day but hopefully not at the hands of a nuclear catastrophe. China will fall one day in power but hopefully not at the hands of a nuclear catastrophe aswell. I don't want to ever read or hear that millions of Americans, Canadians, Mexicans, Chinese, Koreans, and other nearby civilians died at the hands of a nuclear catastrophe caused by nuclear missiles. It would be more horrific beyond anything we have seen before.

[Spud]

Ya missed the point,not to worry.I am working on some stuff I would like to post here.<br /> A LIMITED nuclear war is survivable.<br /> Marshall Islands?Testing?Remember?<br /> <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/wink.gif' alt='Wink'> <br /> I`ll be back. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/twisted.gif' alt='Twisted Evil'>

[sthompson]

<img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/eek.gif' alt='Eek!'> <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/eek.gif' alt='Eek!'> <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/eek.gif' alt='Eek!'> <br /> <br /> My god, can we start an action where we send millions of copies of Nevil Shute's <i>On the Beach</I> to the White House? Or <i>Hiroshima</i> by John Hershey? Laura could read them to George.<br /> <br /> Grrr, the word "pre-emptive" is such a BS word. Why not just call it what it is: a first strike. If we were all being honest, the article would read like this: the US wants to allow regional combatant commanders to request presidential approval for <i>nuclear first strikes</i>. <br /> <br /> And the fact that they think this will somehow <i>prevent</i> the use of missiles by other people makes no sense--they'll hit their own buttons when they see that made-in-America missile coming. There's also this little thing called an "arms race".<br /> <br /> Duck and cover may not help in any quantifiable way, but I'm feeling like hiding under my desk all the same... <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/eek.gif' alt='Eek!'>

[Calumny]

Political Science<br /> by Randy Newman<br /> <br /> No one likes us-I don't know why<br /> We may not be perfect, but heaven knows we try<br /> But all around, even our old friends put us down<br /> Let's drop the big one and see what happens<br /> <br /> We give them money-but are they grateful?<br /> No, they're spiteful and they're hateful<br /> They don't respect us-so let's surprise them<br /> We'll drop the big one and pulverize them<br /> <br /> Asia's crowded and Europe's too old<br /> Africa is far too hot<br /> And Canada's too cold<br /> And South America stole our name<br /> Let's drop the big one<br /> There'll be no one left to blame us<br /> <br /> We'll save Australia<br /> Don't wanna hurt no kangaroo<br /> We'll build an All American amusement park there<br /> They got surfin', too<br /> <br /> Boom goes London and boom Paree<br /> More room for you and more room for me<br /> And every city the whole world round<br /> Will just be another American town<br /> Oh, how peaceful it will be<br /> We'll set everybody free<br /> You'll wear a Japanese kimono<br /> And there'll be Italian shoes for me<br /> <br /> They all hate us anyhow<br /> So let's drop the big one now<br /> Let's drop the big one now<br /> <br /> Got to love Randy.<br /> <br /> <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/biggrin.gif' alt='Big Grin'>

[whelan costen]

A rare and wonderful opportunity from CBC the Hour, which is actually pretty good, a little more newsworthy news, from my point of view; had as a guest the Mayor of Hiroshima, speaking out on the horrors of Nuclear War!(Similar explanation in Mel Hurtig's, Rushing to Armaggedon,(spelling?) it makes you want to cry, for them and for us) It is totally unbelievable that with all our so called intelligence we are still behaving like we are talking about B-B guns or something. I really think that these guys with the power, have lost it! My guns bigger than your guy, na na ...that is what the treaty for non-proliferation was suppose to prevent. But of course nobody signs, because they want the big bombs and they want to terrorize, after all you can't call it a war on terror, without terror! <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/mad.gif' alt='Angry'>

[Spud]

It should also be very clear to everyone just how much the US establishment HATES everyone.<br /> Sorry sthompson,but reading to Dubya is not possible.<br /> Laura is no different than him,and he would never understand anything anyway,he is a christian remember.<br /> Which if one goes by history,is a nice way of saying lets kill everone who doesn`t agree with me. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/wink.gif' alt='Wink'>

[Brother Jonathan]

Maybe the whole point of releasing this “draft” is just to pull a fast one on the analysts for the foreign ministries of North Korea, Iran, &c.?<br /> <br /> Hmmm… could Randy Newman be the <a href="http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5478/">anti-Kipling</a>? <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/smile.gif' alt='Smile'>