[Calumny]

I think this is an interesting idea. As peace should be mankind's natural state, one would think a market should exist. Proceeds from sales could go towards relief of those factors that can lead to war. <br /> <br />Imagine...

[gaulois]

The most interesting part of this Preemptive Peace scheme is that it could enhance our Canadian sovereignty. Think about all the countries that wish to do business with a partner they can trust rather than a war mongering thug. Think about how it could inspire our foreign policy, our foreign aid, our trade practices, etc... <br /> <br />Peace always seem to be received as big yawner and we would need to sparkle it up a bit so that the media pay attention. We would also require politicians with solid backbones. Imagine...

[Calumny]

Geez, sounded good until the penultimate sentence. <br /> <br />Oh, well...hey maybe we could import some fabricated backbones, as we seem to lack the capability to manufacture these here.

[michou]

[QUOTE BY= Calumny] <br />Oh, well...hey maybe we could import some fabricated backbones, as we seem to lack the capability to manufacture these here.[/QUOTE] <br /> <br />Switzerland is where we'll find them...the bones, not the politicians. <br /><a href="http://www.nzz.ch/2004/10/19/english/page-synd5283582.html">Researchers claim bone repair breakthrough</a> <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/mrgreen.gif' alt='Mr. Green'>

[Calumny]

Now, if they were working on something to correct a situation where's there's been a significant loss of brain matter, we'd really have it made, politician wise. <br /> <br />How do you find these links? <br /> <br />Umm...how can I put this (having so many problems properly expressing myself lately)...there is a real flesh and blood michou...right? I mean, you couldn't be solely a manifestation of higher conscious achieved by the web...right? I mean...this stuff with the quantum mechanics and all...one has to wonder.

[Mr.Can-Euro]

We can manufacture great politicans by standing up against our current, corrupt politicans and suprising the shizar <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/biggrin.gif' alt='Big Grin'> out of them by kicking them out of office. If we do this, future politicans will become aware of the Canadian people and start to treat us right or else. If we do nothing about our current politicans, they will keep walking all over us and do whatever they want to us.

[Stymiest]

[QUOTE BY= Calumny] Geez, sounded good until the penultimate sentence. <br /> <br />Oh, well...hey maybe we could import some fabricated backbones, as we seem to lack the capability to manufacture these here.[/QUOTE] <br /> <br />LOl they will need to be coated in titanium alloy if those backbones whish to survive a term in office here <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/smile.gif' alt='Smile'>

[Kory Yamashita]

[QUOTE BY= Mr.Can-Euro] We can manufacture great politicans by standing up against our current, corrupt politicans and suprising the shizar <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/biggrin.gif' alt='Big Grin'> out of them by kicking them out of office. If we do this, future politicans will become aware of the Canadian people and start to treat us right or else. If we do nothing about our current politicans, they will keep walking all over us and do whatever they want to us. [/QUOTE] <br /> <br />Naw, what we need to do is RUN AGAINST THEM. We keep asking why the politicians don't get it. Well, we get it. And all that's stopping us from being politicians is running against them and winning. It's possible... (Props to Whelan and Susan on this one).

[xdeathx10]

Theoretically Communism is a great idea. However it cannot be perfected therefore it ends up in a mess. The world today wouldn't survive without its market and communist countries never suceed.

[Kory Yamashita]

xdeathx10, communist countries never succeed? What about Cuba?<br /> <br /> Besides, communism has been tried only on a few occasions. No matter how good your theory, there is a certain trial-and-error methodology that must be followed to successfully create a complex mechanism (such as an economic system). This is why engineers build prototypes of inventions, the military test-runs their machinery, and governments do opinion polls before making decisions. In fact, even a tried-and-true, simple mechanism will fail occasionally. Buildings are designed in such a way that they won't topple over if one member fails, because there are always random defects that weaken random members below their design strengths. Factories assume a certain number of their products will fail. Even key infrastructure like bridges are designed so that they PROBABLY won't fail.<br /> <br /> My point is that nothing is ever certain and that no matter how hard you try, you cannot design a perfect system. Communism will work eventually. It's just a matter of trial and error until we reach a model that will work in most countries most of the time. Just like capitalism has had its failures (Great Depression, collapse of the Asian stock market, collapse of economies that adopted IMF structural adjustment programs, etc), so too will communism. But because communism serves more people than capitalism, it is a future step in the evolution of economic systems. If you follow the evolution of economic systems and their social implications, communism is almost a sure thing in the future.

[Marcarc]

Keep in mind Canada hardly has the moral ground to define 'preemptive peace'. The Somalia inquiry was shut down, NATO bombings, of which we were part in Bosnia, and the coalition in Afghanistan all constitute war crimes, there is barely a whisper of attending such things, even among pacifists, many of whom point to the US's imperialism as reason not to focus on their own nation's problems. An interesting read is here-http://ukar.org/mclell16.html which highlights Canada's political control of such 'war crimes' tribunals. And, of course, under increasingly liberalized notions of 'genocide' there is more and more evidence compounding of Canada's genocidal treatment of natives. <br /> Romeo Dallaire's title inclusive of the word 'devil' symbolizes much of the reaction to Somalia, that they were 'good boys in a bad environment', which has never worked in any court of law, but which helped 'sweep it under the rug'. If Canada were interested in 'preemptive peace', the first step would be to arrest and charge it's own practitioner's of it, many of whom speak out quite openly about it.

[Guest]

Communism will work eventually[QUOTE]<br /> <br /> [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Name one location where communism has been tried that did not result in mass executions of citizens.<br /> <br /> Dennis Baker

[Dr Caleb]

[QUOTE BY= dbaker]<br /> Name one location where communism has been tried that did not result in mass executions of citizens.<br /> <br /> Dennis Baker[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Denmark. Which is also a Constitutional Monarchy.<br />

[Marcarc]

Name one society anywhere that hasn't resulted in the mass executions of citizens. The US is a democracy founded upon one of the most massive executions of citizens in history. Likewise Canada. Great Britain's history is strewn with bodies, as is all South America, Africa, Asia, Europe, well, you name it-there were exectutions there.

[Kory Yamashita]

Marcarc, when you put it that way, I actually begin to get disillusioned. But on the bright side, at least there are some countries that no longer commit MASS executions.