[arc628]

<strong>Written By:</strong> arc628
<strong>Date:</strong> 2005-07-16 09:20:24
<a href="/article/172024406-climate-change-is-upon-us-and-were-not-going-to-like-it">Article Link</a>

Scientists describe last year's ocean temperatures as "extraordinary." Climate change is a factor, they say.

Fifty-five million years ago, atmospheric carbon dioxide increased at roughly the same rate humans pump it out today. Oceans warmed-- perhaps five degrees at the equator, nine degrees at the poles. Seas became acidic. Mass extinctions of marine creatures followed.

In the dry Interior, a pine beetle infestation is expected to kill 80 per cent of the province's lodgepole forests by 2013. That's 25 to 30 per cent of B.C.'s commercial timber inventory.

Cold winters limit beetle population growth -- but winters are increasingly mild. Pine beetles can exploit more northerly and higher elevation habitats. Foresters worry that the beetle will soon adapt to jack pine. If it invades this new ecological niche, the nightmare goes transcontinental.

<a href="http://media.wildernesscommittee.org/news/2005/07/1420.php">http://media.wildernesscommittee.org/news/2005/07/1420.php</a>




[Proofreader's note: this article was edited for spelling and typos on July 17, 2005]

[Guest]

Well,maybe it is true,maybe it is not.The world has gone through many changes over the last 1,000 years.If it was that serious martial law would be brought in.
Then again,we are over populated,we over consume.I do not know.this enviromental scare of global warming has been going on forever.Perhaps if we had a BIG enviromental disaster,we might change our ways.But I don`t think the public has the brains for that.

[RPW]

Thing is, we think the world was made for humans. And yes, the world also goes through cycles. We are just one of them. Chances are though, we'll survive (some of us), just the way other species survive in lesser or greater numbers. The greater threat is what we'll do to each other, as conditions become more precarious to economies and food supplies in general.

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RickW

[Guest]

Has no one ever heard of the age of the dinosaurs when the earth was much warmer or the ice age when the earth was much cooler. Climate change fanatics have learned nothing from history and appear like simple people who rage for its own sake.

[Guest]

You wish. But not the kind of stuff you can put in your bong and smoke. This is very serious now. I have had no experiences with mother nature as I have had this spring/summer, if you can call it that. I can go back quite a few years. No, something is afoot to be sure. I'm headed to the Shield and putting in some hothouses. I'll have a rifle as well.

[Guest]

"Has no one ever heard of the age of the dinosaurs when the earth was much warmer or the ice age when the earth was much cooler. Climate change fanatics have learned nothing from history and appear like simple people who rage for its own sake."<br />
___________________________________________________________What is a climate change fanatic? Are you aware of the science on the subject of global warming and it's related elements? <br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.theclimategroup.org/index.php?pid=356">http://www.theclimategroup.org/index.php?pid=356</a>

[Guest]

The environmentalist metaphor of this frog in a vat of water getting hotter and hotter is not getting any less scary. There must be serious downsides to apathy.

[Guest]

But nothing serious is happening!That is why apathy rules.The public has not bought into chicken little.All these catastrophies never happen.You can`t keep screaming the end of the world and expect people to believe you when nothing is happening.Yes there is pollution,but life as we know it is not about to end.

[Spud]

It will take a HUGE natural disaster for the public to wake up.
People like to talk about the enviroment,but they don`t want to do anything about it.
SUV`s being the prime offender.

[DL]

Maybe climate change doesn't come in one big cataclysmic disaster, maybe it comes in degrees. More, and more smog days, higher and higher SPF, bigger and bigger hurricanes that occur more frequently, more flooding, more often in more countries simultainiously. I wonder if, in Florida people are becoming uneasy? What will the breaking point be for all the naysayers, I wonder?

[RPW]

"All these catastrophies never happen"<br />
<br />
The end of the dinosaurs evidently took about 100,000 years. But when one is talking in terms of millions of years, that is a "flash in the pan". So we could be in the throes of a disaster as we speak. But it will take generations before we "fall victim". Or it could actually be "overhight:<br />
<a href="http://www.solcomhouse.com/yellowstone.htm">http://www.solcomhouse.com/yellowstone.htm</a><p>---<br>RickW