[Bo64]

mikailus mikailus:

There is no difference between monarchy and dictatorship, and care not what others think of me.
As for HDI, what the hell does it have to do with monarchy?

The places with the highest HDI are monarchies. (save Switzerland, God bless them)

In international politics its a bit hard to do controlled experiments, but the empirical evidence shows at the minimum a correlation between monarchies and high HDI numbers. Granted it might not be causative, but why would any nation near the top of the HDI be willing to 'buck the trend' to see?

As for 'not caring' what the people think, that sounds rather more like the dictator than the 'proper republican president' doesn't?

How many would you win to your side with your invectives, and disregard for facts? Precious few - thankfully!

[Dr Caleb]

mikailus mikailus:

Oh, and Jovan? I don't appreciate you promoting trolling, vandalism and hacking other people's groups. You're just a typical monarchist: intolerant, tyrannical and despotic! You deserve a shipping back to England.

Says the guy who posts: "God damn Her Degeneracy, Eliza-bitch Two"

[Dr Caleb]

mikailus mikailus:

There's a difference between mockery/criticism and trolling/hacking/internet vandalism.

There is, but such a statement is entirely designed to create an emotional reaction from Monarchists. The classic definition of 'trolling'.

It's pretty obvious you don't want a discussion, you want an argument. That's room 12b.

[Dr Caleb]

mikailus mikailus:

It was a reaction to what Jovan first said. Plus I'm republican. What do you expect?

Precisely. Jovan expressed support for his country, and it's head of State, and you trolled him.

What he does after that is a direct result. What did you expect?

Given that you express desire for deep political and constitutional change in Canada, I would have pegged you for a Libertarian, not republican.

BTW - The Governor General is head of State in Canada. (1984 constitution). All bills must pass through that office before they are law, and the military is loyal to the G.G.

[Dr Caleb]

mikailus mikailus:

Actually, you're confusing republican with Republican. Plus you're trolling by reacting to everything I'm saying.

No, that's why I spelt it with a lowercase 'R'. I think you confused 'trolling' with 'conversation' again. Reacting to what you are saying is 'conversation'. Intentionally provoking a strong reaction with my words is 'trolling'.

Believe me, I can troll much harder than most. This ain't it.

[Bo64]

mikailus mikailus:

I'm not talking about an American state and the United States, I'm talking about a state and a State. Do you know the difference?

Less than you'd think. The US Federal Government is one of overlapping and divided Sovereignty.

California has like what the 5th largest economy in the world, and its National Guard could probably take on all of Latin America...

mikailus mikailus:

Also, she's based IN ANOTHER COUNTRY and has no purpose or use and is the head of state of another country based in that other country, thus not ours!

The President isn't even based in ANY of the US States...What of it?

mikailus mikailus:

Why can't we have our own constitution with our own head of state based here? Why? You haven't answered that.

You've not shown that the Canadian Constitution isn't Canadian, nor that Her Majesty the Queen of Canada isn't Queen of Canada.

You already have a Canadian Constitution passed into law by the Parliament of Canada (including the royal assent from Her Majesty the Queen of Canada).

[Jovan]

I did not say you were a traitor. I know what constitutes High Treason under the Criminal Code and you have not yet committed it. However, based on your vile post:

mikailus mikailus:

God damn Her Degeneracy, Eliza-bitch Two, by the Wrath of God, of the British Empire, Tyrant and Oppressor of Peoples, Useless and Unnecessary, Defender of an Evil Form of Government the United States Aspires To!

I feel that you are quite capable of committing the crime.

The title you have chosen also alludes to the 'Patriotes' of 1837-38 who led a violent rebellion, with the help of the Americans, against the established Government of Lower Canada. Makes me wonder!

I also find your choice of words to describe your unpatriotic movement interesting: 'nationalist, socialist, republican, democratic and secular'. All of these were used by a German politician in the last century, especially the first two. If you got past grade 3 or 4 you might be familiar with him. His initials were AH.

[Schleihauf]

mikailus mikailus:

Death to the Crown! Death to all tyrants! Long live the Republic!

If you hate the Queen so much why don't you just pack your bags and move south? Why keep the Queen? This country was founded on people who packed their bags and moved north after the revolution to live under the tyrannical and oppressive rule of the King.

[ZAROVE]

I realise this is my first post here, and no intriduction has been rpesented, but I am a poster on another forum, so I thoguht I'd throw my lot in, as an Englishman living in the States.

Republicanism is string in our age, and mroe oftenthannot we look to the Elected leaders to rule the naiton, and what has our current system of thouth given us?


Well, anyoen who critisses Bush shouldn't stand up for Republicanism, and it snot like the British Labour Party has been particulalry well liked bakc home.

That said, neither the Liberals nor the COnservitives in Canada, form what I gather, truly represent the Canadian people or stand for their best interests.

They are political parties out to launch their own political agendas and implement their own ideologies, which thye out firts,a nd hwich divides the naiton unnessisarily.

Hence why Monarhcy has an advantage. The Queen is not part of a political aprty, wa not leecte dby only about half or just over of the Canadian population, and doens't have to cater to politicla backers and endless special interest groups in order to ensure her continued preasence.


She is much less dupicious.


Thats one good reason to keepthe Crown.

Another is the transitory nature of Republics. Her eitn eh USA we get a guy in office for four years ghen he leaves, unelss voted bakc in, then he must leave if that happens after another four years. After this a new guy steps in and the naiton changes direciton, with little to no rhyme or reason.

Given the power of Parliments in the Commonwealth realms and how they tend ot make a mess of htings,do you relalythink we need to further erode the state of affairs and push for a Republic and its nsuing diision, endless transitiosn and ocntinual instability?

With eleced officials withthe "Democratic Mandate" capable of accuring geater and greate rpower until, in the name of the people, we are a dictatorhsip?


The Soviet Union was a Republic for cryign out lud,a nd never missed an election!

Monarhcy is stable, provides easier means of unity, and tends ot be mroe prosperous.

That said, if you dson't want a foreing Head of State, why not do what many of us woud like and strengthn the COmmonwealth bonds, so that the Family of Nations becomes a sort of Loose Confederacy, with shared trade and open boarders, but retainign regional soverignty?

I think that woudl be a good idea. That and Reinstating the Monarhcy her ein the good old US of A.

[Bo64]

mikailus mikailus:

Hey Bo64!

STATE:
1. A nation or territory considered as an organized political community under one government.
2. An organized political community or area forming part of a federal republic. i.e. the American state of California

Perhaps if you looked up what a federal republic was, you'd see why there isn't much difference in State (as in California) and a State (as in Monaco). The California National Guard could under the existing US Constitution wage war against an invading force (should the Mexicans decided to send troops over the line instead of low-wage workers...) with out getting Federal Approval.

mikailus mikailus:

And you've not shown the Canadian constitution is Canadian. Proof?

Fool.

Ad Hominem attacks aren't usually indicative of well reasoned positions.
Nor, by the way are demands that others disprove your own unsupported claims. (usual practise is that the 'moving party' supports its claims....)

Nonetheless, if facts are of interest to you, you may find these links enlightening.

(you'll need to remove the spaces....)

H T T P : / / l a w s . j u s t i c e . g c . c a / e n / c o n s t / a n n e x _ e . h t m l
H T T P : / / e n.w i k i p e d i a . o r g / w i k i / C o n s t i t u t i o n _ A c t % 2 C _ 1 9 8 2

[Bo64]

mikailus mikailus:

Has anyone noticed the sign "leftist and anti-monarchist only"? With the Y only missing at the end? Obviously you buggers can't read.

? So, I'm a leftist.

[Bo64]

mikailus mikailus:

"Thanks, Godwin. I had already noticed the similarity, but your post prompted me to point it out.

So far, Deo gratias, he's getting no support on CKA. Just people pointing out that he started the trolling and that he's unpatriotic. I plan on staying on him and would appreciate any help any of you can give. CKA is an open forum. One need not be a Canadian to join."

That's you Jovan on the other site. You realize that's not only conspiracy and criminal harassment under the criminal code, you're also selling out this website, which is supposed to be for Canadians, by Canadians.

Tell us your plan, man-worshipping treasonous stalker.

Oh, and Zarove? WTF are you doing in a Canadian forum, considering you're living in the very country the above person is insulting? This isn't the forum of the G.O.P., you know. You agree with him, taking shots at your country?

duhaime dot org duhaime dot org:

....In all cases, the conduct must be such that apprehension or "fear for their safety" is "reasonable." This means having a fear for which there is a reason; not a fear based on exaggeration of the situation or on imagined problems......

[Schleihauf]

mikailus mikailus:

Hey Schleihauf (or Sheiss-hauf)! You like the Queen? Go to England!

Why move when shes already my Queen here?

[ZAROVE]

Mikailus, I am English. I live in th United States of America, but, I am English.


And I'm not sure what the G.O.P. comment has to do with anything, givne that I am also a died int he wool monarchist who prefers traditional, classical thoht to modern Neo-Conservitism, or modern Liberalism, both of hwich prove divisive and unable to think of the ocmmon good, and both beign destructive int he end to the people because of their unbalanced views.


I also support the COmmonwalth, and wish that those ties woudl be storng as they where itn he apst,and prhaps make of it what the EU wants ot make of Europe, after excising the United Kingdom, and preferabley Ireland, form it. (Thogh Ireland dseems contend withthe EU)


I support the idea of limited Govrnment, under the Crown, a mix of elected and unelected Parlimentarians, and a Crown.

Not ot mention general Libertarian principles that state that one is free to govenr ones own life, provided that one does not harm others, or expect the State to endors yor choices or enshrine them as a right.


So, I stand for God and Queen, and Emprie, as it where.

But I suppose you leftists have made the very word "Empire" a synonym with tyranny, and see it only as evil even though Canada prospered udner it.

Revisionist Hisotry is the tool of the Revolutionary, to make certain the past is seen as dark and evil, so thy can ofer the false light of their vision.


As for Americans, they arnet all bad, and I woudl never say of any nation that their peopel are fully evil. The Chinese Govenremnt I deplore, but can I hate then all Chinese? Shoudl I deny thm voice because their Govenrment is Communist?


It is true that most Americans are agaisnt Monarchy, and it is ingraiend as it is part of their National Epic to see th end of Monarhcy and its overthrow form the colonies as the great dawn of freedom and prsosperity, but not all Americans are so sihostile, and I woudl also advise tyou to keep in mind that Americans arne't despotic by and large, and hae always been friendly towards Canadians,even if the Governments haven't alway been, but the Govenrments have enjoyed a grand relaitonship for over a century now, and I shoudl think that that too shoudl be considered.


Long Live the Queen, and may God bless you, and all of his people int he blessed land of Canada.

[Dr Caleb]

Well Mikail-U.S. (if that is your real name) so far we have the start of a "one trick pony" political party.

Just one mandate, 'end the Monarchy'. No substance on how to do that, or what to replace it with. After 4 pages; as far as political parties go, I'd have to rate this one just south of Rhino. At least they had a platform of "solid oak", and a Court Jester.