[Guest]

[QUOTE BY= badsector] Sooo... If Harper had a majority, he would turn Canada into a Third World hell hole, like Mulroney did. [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Wha....???<br /> <br /> QUOTE BY= badsector] During the election he managed to portray himself as a "moderate." If he governs like a moderate (like a Liberal), he can stay for a while, like a year or even two but will piss off his gun toting drinking buddies in what's the name of that ridiculous province in the prairie, with lots of oil. If he governs like an Albertan, he will fall before he can move his furniture in Sussex Drive.<br /> <br /> I am holding on to my (NDP) election sign, cause I might need it soon. I can save their volunteers a trip this summer, or fall, or maybe next winter.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> NDP? Oh that explains the extremist rhetoric that I seem to 'tune out' and never read.<br /> <br /> All the best.

[Jesse]

[QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch][QUOTE]<br /> If you actually read and comprehended what I said, it was "more pressing issues THAN gay marriage", not "more pressing issues LIKE gay marriage". Seriously, slow down, take a deep breath, and re-read things before posting knee-jerk reactions that make an ass of yourself. I believe you owe me an apology.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> And where do you stand on Gay Marriage? You don't believe it's an important issue? A lot of people did.<br /> <br /> I sense homophobia.<br /> <br /> [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> I sense someone who won't admit he misread my post and refuses to apologise. It's not that hard, repeat after me: "I'm sorry I made wild accusations that had nothing to do with what you wrote". <br /> <br /> I fully support gay marriage, which you would know if you had ever actually read my statements on the subject. But I feel it is an issue that has already been settled, and this new parliament should work on resolving *other* issues instead of repealing progressive decisions.

[Guest]

[QUOTE BY= Reverend Blair] Good, then let's just start calling it marriage (without the qualifier) and move on. Oh wait, Harper wants to bring it up again. [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Nope, the fact that Gay Marriage was a key issue for many Canadians only prompts me to believe that Gay Marriage should be banned/moratorium'd for no less than 50+ years.<br /> <br /> Harper should not be allowed to 'bring it up' again. Just ban gay marriage and make it punisheable by law, if someone bitches about that (and they will) just say "That's what you get for pushing fuckhead topics over healthcare you stupid dipshit!"<br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Reverend Blair] Just like so many in his party would like to take away a woman's right to c...drone...drone...drone...blah...blah...fucking blah....[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> I agree with the last part.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Reverend Blair] If he governs like a moderate (like a Liberal), he can stay for a while, like a year or even two but will piss off his gun toting drinking buddies in what's the name of that ridiculous province in the prairie, with lots of oil. If he governs like an Albertan, he will fall before he can move his furniture in Sussex Drive. I know the future, just ask me to give you winning lottery numbers! [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> So, what's next week's winning numbers?<br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Reverend Blair]I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Conservatives split again over this. Harper, if he wants to remain in power, now has to do what's best for the majority. Like it or not, that means catering to Ontario and, to a lesser extent, Quebec. That's not going to make Calgary happy. Neither is the spectacle of Harper having to go the Liberals, NDP, and Bloc looking for a deal every time he wants to pass legislation.<br /> [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> And like as if the Liberals were rock solid the last couple years.<br /> <br /> The fact is, Canada's geo-politics is so bloody fractured right now it's pathetic. Doesn't matter who we elect. It's all just going to fuck up Canada. MINORITY GOVERNMENTS DO NOT WORK!<br /> <br /> See you dipshits at the polls (later) this year!<br /> <br />

[Guest]

[QUOTE BY= jesse]I sense someone who won't admit he misread my post and refuses to apologise. It's not that hard, repeat after me: "I'm sorry I made wild accusations that had nothing to do with what you wrote". [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> I'm sorry Jesse. I misread you. My fault.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= jesse]I fully support gay marriage, which you would know if you had ever actually read my statements on the subject. [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> You're right, I don't bother reading most of what you wrote, since I basically expect the same rhetoric from everyone else.<br /> <br /> I'm getting lazy as a result of basically 'guessing' what you're going to say even before you say it. You're predictable as shit, but that doesn't give me the right to castigate you publicly.<br /> <br /> If you want to delete my offending post, feel free to.<br /> <br />

[Bryan of StA]

[QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch] Nope, the fact that Gay Marriage was a key issue for many Canadians only prompts me to believe that Gay Marriage should be banned/moratorium'd for no less than 50+ years. [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> I would take it then that you support the idea of rule by tyrant?

[Jesse]

[QUOTE BY= Bryan of StA]<br /> I would take it then that you support the idea of rule by tyrant?[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> I don't think it's necessarily rule by tyrant; the idea of imposing a limit on how soon an issue can be revisited seems reasonable. I assume the threat of jail time was just to make his point; simply not considering a motion to re-open an issue within X yearswould be fairly effective at preventing government flip-flops.

[Guest]

[QUOTE BY= Bryan of StA] [QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch] Nope, the fact that Gay Marriage was a key issue for many Canadians only prompts me to believe that Gay Marriage should be banned/moratorium'd for no less than 50+ years. [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> I would take it then that you support the idea of rule by tyrant?[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Yep. You caught me.<br /> <br /> I'm a supporter of the Nazi party.<br /> <br /> I knew my cover would be blown.

[Bryan of StA]

[QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch] <br /> <br /> Yep. You caught me.<br /> <br /> I'm a supporter of the Nazi party.<br /> <br /> I knew my cover would be blown.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> *SIGH* All tyrants are Nazis and all Nazis are tyrants?

[Guest]

[QUOTE BY= Bryan of StA] [QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch] <br /> <br /> Yep. You caught me.<br /> <br /> I'm a supporter of the Nazi party.<br /> <br /> I knew my cover would be blown.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> *SIGH* All tyrants are Nazis and all Nazis are tyrants?[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> If you have nothing to contribute besides implying that people are Nazi's...then why don't you STFU?

[Bryan of StA]

[QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch] If you have nothing to contribute besides implying that people are Nazi's...then why don't you STFU?[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Your reading comprehension really is rather poor lately.<br /> <br /> I did not imply that. Imply generally means that I made some statement where a logical extension can be drawn.<br /> <br /> For example: If I wanted to imply you were a Nazi, I might have asked whether you enjoyed goosestepping to the polling booth. I did not say that.<br /> <br /> I asked a question based upon a statement you made. Your response shows rather shocking ignorance as to the meaning of the word "tyrant."<br /> <br /> Not everyone is out to get you. I just wished you to clarify a point so as not to make your argument sound like the ravings of a lunatic.<br /> <br />

[Dr Caleb]

[QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]<br /> You're right, I don't bother reading most of what you wrote, since I basically expect the same rhetoric from everyone else.<br /> <br /> I'm getting lazy as a result of basically 'guessing' what you're going to say even before you say it. You're predictable as shit...<br /> [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]<br /> If you have nothing to contribute besides implying that people are Nazi's...then why don't you STFU?[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Don't you see this Rabble? You guess what people are trying to say, and you guess wrong! We aren't so predictable, apparently.<br /> <br /> While I admire the apology to Jesse, no one used the word 'Nazi' except you. Mugabe, Hussein, Kohemeni, were all tyrants, none were Nazis.<br />

[Guest]

And this has *nothing* to do with Harper winning a minority government.<br /> <br /> Is this supposed to be a debate forum, or a 'pick on semantics because we're complete assholes' forum?<br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Dr Caleb] [QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]<br /> You're right, I don't bother reading most of what you wrote, since I basically expect the same rhetoric from everyone else.<br /> <br /> I'm getting lazy as a result of basically 'guessing' what you're going to say even before you say it. You're predictable as shit...<br /> [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch]<br /> If you have nothing to contribute besides implying that people are Nazi's...then why don't you STFU?[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Don't you see this Rabble? You guess what people are trying to say, and you guess wrong! We aren't so predictable, apparently.<br /> <br /> While I admire the apology to Jesse, no one used the word 'Nazi' except you. Mugabe, Hussein, Kohemeni, were all tyrants, none were Nazis.<br /> [/QUOTE]

[Brother Jonathan]

[QUOTE by Rabblewatch]</b> Basically, anything Harper wants to do, he’ll have to get both the Grits and NDP’s support.<b>[/QUOTE]<br /> If he has the support of the Liberals for a given issue, why would he also need the support of the NDP?<br /> <br /> [QUOTE by Rabblewatch]</b> Layton’s a shameless whore. He’d side with the Bloc Quebecois if it meant getting his bullshit pushed through.<b>[/QUOTE]<br /> Would you view Harper in a similar light if he had to rely on the BQ to pass legislation that was opposed by both the Grits and the NDP?<br /> <br /> [QUOTE by badsector]</b> If Harper had a majority, he would turn Canada into a Third World hell hole, like Mulroney did.<b>[/QUOTE]<br /> Exactly which years do you consider Canada to have been a “Third World hell hole”? Do you mean during Mulroney’s tenure, in his aftermath, or some combination of the two?<br /> <br /> [QUOTE by CamTheCat]</b> I wonder if the parties have enough money to fund another election so soon.<b>[/QUOTE]<br /> Are there any published estimates on the costs of the campaign to each party? How do those costs compare to the $1.75 per vote that the parties will receive federally? (I’m still learning about this mechanism — is it only the parties that exceed the 5% threshhold that receive these dollars?)<br /> <br /> [QUOTE by badsector]</b> How does proportional representation work? Is it a) we send every Canadian to parliament as MP (which will be great for the construction industry), or b) we get a group of people to elect a representative.<br><br /> Oh wait a minute… we already have “b”.<b>[/QUOTE]<br /> Currently, each MP from PEI represents about 34,000 people. Compare this to BC, Ontario, and Alberta, where each MP represents at least 106,000 people. (The MP representations for the other provinces lie in between these extrema.) I suspect that CamTheCat and Innes prefer to see less variation in how many people are represented by a given MP.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE by Rabblewatch]</b> Doesn’t matter whom we elect [as a minority government]. It’s all just going to fuck up Canada.<b>[/QUOTE]<br /> So if you had to choose between [1] getting part of the Conservative platform into law under a Conservative-led minority government, and [2] getting none of the Conservative platform into law under a non-Conservative majority government, you’d prefer the latter?<br />

[Roy_Whyte]

[QUOTE BY= Bryan of StA] [QUOTE BY= Rabblewatch] Nope, the fact that Gay Marriage was a key issue for many Canadians only prompts me to believe that Gay Marriage should be banned/moratorium'd for no less than 50+ years. [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> I would take it then that you support the idea of rule by tyrant?[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> The Cons and their supporters best remember more people voted against them than for them. Good luck to them when it comes to revisiting SSM and missile defense.

[badsector]

[QUOTE]The Cons and their supporters best remember more people voted against them than for them. [/QUOTE]<br /> I don't think they are getting the message. It's day one and I just saw Jim Flaherty yelling on TV with a red face that cities will get nothing, they will only help the disabled. This asshole was finance minister under Mike the Hatchet Harris and many Ontarians remember him, and the rest of that neo-con trash, vividly. Another cronie Tony Clement was minister of health is Ontario. Under his watch people died in ambulances because there were no hospitals that could take them. There used to be though but the cons closed 42 of them... This is precisely why Toronto voted so strongly against conservatives. I can't imagine how we can survive even a single budget under these destructive, simple minded, arrogant assholes. I say let's screw them on their first budget.