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[QUOTE BY= Perturbed] The Saint on Roy Whyte:<br /> <br /> [QUOTE]And why do I get the feeling you’re an immigration lawyer? Please tell me your not.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> No he works a dead end job as a security guard and runs some political web site that no one reads. Its threads used to get like 1 comment so now no comments are allowed.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> So let's see, my work for an international airport authority, and work for the RCMP is a security guard job eh? <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/rolleyes.gif' alt='Rolling Eyes'> <br /> <br /> Our site is nearing four million page views, that's not hits, that is requests for individual pages, and should pass that this month - that is in little over three years. Nearly 1.3 million pages served per year on average... and what have you done besides come off as a blowhard perturbed? Hmmm, no comments... the comments have never been closed, not for a minute, but then again, lying and contorting seems to be the main attack method of Mr Superiority here.<br /> <br /> http://img119.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cdm5eq.gif<br /> There is your EVIDENCE perturbed.<br /> <br /> And as for your other 'evidence' - the only evidence you have shown is that you are a closet racist. You once again try to claim that your 'white' culture supersedes others. Yet you are clearly blissfully unaware that there is more than one white culture in Canada. But to know something so simple would signify a broadened ability to think... <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/evil.gif' alt='Evil'> <br /> <br /> This is my last reply to the culturites. There is no being civil with the lot of them. They believe themselves to be superior when clearly those that base their standing in life according to the color of their skin throughout history are those least deserving of any such standing.



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[QUOTE BY= Roy_Whyte] And as for your other 'evidence' - the only evidence you have shown is that you are a closet racist.[/Quote]<br /> <br /> "You" meaning me or Peturbed? Speaking for myself I want you to show me where I am racist. I also want you to show me how I am an anti-immigrant which you have failed to do. This line is typical and is not surprising. People such as myslef can expect such ad hominen attacks because there is more to suggest that our immigration system is corrupt and harmful to our country than otherwise assumed. This explains why you didn't even bother to address anything I said in my response. Fact hits harder than fiction eh Roy?<br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Roy_Whyte]You once again try to claim that your 'white' culture supersedes others.[/Quote]<br /> <br /> I never said that. <br /> <br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Roy_Whyte]Yet you are clearly blissfully unaware that there is more than one white culture in Canada.[/Quote]<br /> <br /> And you seem blissfully unaware that there is just one Canada. Why do you insist on eliminating it so casually? Why must Canadians surrender their culture and identity so that others may maintain what they already have in their home countries? <br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Roy_Whyte]This is my last reply to the culturites. There is no being civil with the lot of them. They believe themselves to be superior when clearly those that base their standing in life according to the color of their skin throughout history are those least deserving of any such standing.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Now that the "multiculturite" or "muticultist" is finished speaking we see that we have a classic exmaple of what is to be expected from one of the faithful who worships at the altar of multiculturalism and mass immigration (Canada's official religions). His replies are based on unsubstantiated rhetoric and after they are exposed as being groundless he then resorts to ad hominen attacks. Seeing that he has lost he chooses to ignore the issue completely by sticking his head back in the sand from whence he initially hid it. His resoning is to be expected as well. It is not based on logic or any rational thought process but primarily on emotion. He has a filipina girlfriend and therefore Canada needs more immigrants and diversity. More common examples are one of my friends is a minority therefore we need more immigrants and divesity. Or, my grandparents came here after the war and therefore Canada needs more immigrants and diversity. For me, and I am being truthful, my best friend of over eighteen years is from South Asia but Canada does not need more immigrants or diversity.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE BY= Roy_Whyte]This is my last reply to the culturites. There is no being civil with the lot of them.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> I will leave you with this quote to ponder.<br /> <br /> "To those of the white race who look to the incoming of those of foreign birth and strange tongue and habits for the prosperity of the South, were I permitted I would repeat what I say to my own race, “Cast down your bucket where you are.” Cast it down among the eight millions of Negroes whose habits you know, whose fidelity and love you have tested in days when to have proved treacherousmeant the ruin of your firesides...As we have proved our loyalty to you in the past, in nursing your children, watching by the sick-bed of your mothers and fathers, and often following them with tear-dimmed eyes to their graves, so in the future, in our humble way, we shall stand by you with a devotion that no foreigner can approach, ready to lay down our lives, if need be, in defence of yours, interlacing our industrial, commercial, civil, and religious life with yours in a way that shall make the interests of both races one."<br /> <br /> This is from the Atlanta Exposition Address that Booker T. Washington made in 1885. I guess Booker T. Washington was an anti-immigrant, closet racist, culturite. Shame on him. But he wasn't a civil being anyways.


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I will respond to the Saint - at least he makes a civil argument. No the majority of my words were aimed at perturbed. But to you, please show how and why white culture should be the basis of this great nation? <br /> <br /> My white culture will survive even if we become the minority in this nation. I don't feel threatened in the least by the change that is coming. <br /> <br /> Canada is always ranked as one of the most desirable places to live because so many of us are open to others. That matters, for if we cut off immigrants we will have a declining population. We would cease to be a middle power if we allow that to happen. That is a rational concern based on fact.<br /> <br /> How is allowing immigrants destroying Canada as you say? There is zero quantifiable proof of that. The only people making hay are those who don't immigrants. Perturbed trotted out the old adage of crime rates where there are lots of immigrants. I invite both of you to come to my neighbourhood (Whalley BC) and see all the criminals are white, born in Canada, and as you say of the so called upper stock. It's a fallacy to blame crime on any one ethnic group. The reason for crime and the always underlying poverty is multi-faceted, but sadly has been seized upon by the select few to further their facetious argument. And in the end, I am glad to say my white culture is different from yours and perturbed.



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The problem, Roy Whyte, is that immigrants are granted a PRIVILEGE to ADOPT and PARTICIPATE in Canada's cultural heritage while maintaining theirs, not the other way around. You're from BC, you should know English has become a minority language in some urban centers in Canada for Christ's sake. What the hell is that all about, I suppose that too makes you a proud multiculturalist? Irresponsible people like you in positions of power have abused immigration and allowed these people to hijack Canada's society with their lousy management of immigration. Goddamned Liberals and liberal minded saps.<br /> <br /> Go to <b><a href="http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/francais/index.html">Immigration Québec</a></b>, the ONE unavoidable prerequisite for an immigrant is:<br /> <br /> <i>You, and your spouse, if applicable, must have foremost knowledge of French. The assessment of your immigration application will take into account your schooling, experience and knowledge of French.</i><br /> <br /> I couldn't find such a prerequisite at Immigration Canada. That, of course, would of prevented Liberals from flooding the country with unmanaged immigrants prior to elections. Now they're in, don't speak a word of English and you've got RCMP officers wearing<br /> turbans <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/lol.gif' alt='Laughing Out Loud'>


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[QUOTE BY= Roy_Whyte] [QUOTE BY= Perturbed] The Saint on Roy Whyte:<br /> <br /> [QUOTE]And why do I get the feeling you’re an immigration lawyer? Please tell me your not.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> No he works a dead end job as a security guard and runs some political web site that no one reads. Its threads used to get like 1 comment so now no comments are allowed.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> So let's see, my work for an international airport authority, and work for the RCMP is a security guard job eh? <br /> <br /> Our site is nearing four million page views, that's not hits, that is requests for individual pages, and should pass that this month - that is in little over three years. Nearly 1.3 million pages served per year on average... and what have you done besides come off as a blowhard perturbed? Hmmm, no comments... the comments have never been closed, not for a minute, but then again, lying and contorting seems to be the main attack method of Mr Superiority here.<br /> <br /> http://img119.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cdm5eq.gif<br /> There is your EVIDENCE perturbed.<br /> <br /> And as for your other 'evidence' - the only evidence you have shown is that you are a closet racist. You once again try to claim that your 'white' culture supersedes others. Yet you are clearly blissfully unaware that there is more than one white culture in Canada. But to know something so simple would signify a broadened ability to think... <br /> <br /> This is my last reply to the culturites. There is no being civil with the lot of them. They believe themselves to be superior when clearly those that base their standing in life according to the color of their skin throughout history are those least deserving of any such standing.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> <br /> Once again you try to defame me. I thought you didn't take my barbs seriously. That's what you said. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/lol.gif' alt='Laughing Out Loud'> <br /> <br /> Naturally I didn't know your precise position. That said, it is interesting to know you work for the RCMP. <br /> <br /> I take it you yearn for the day when the RCMP will round up people even more like me than they already do and send them to the Canadian Gulag for thought crime.



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The Saint:<br /> <br /> [QUOTE]For me, and I am being truthful, my best friend of over eighteen years is from South Asia but Canada does not need more immigrants or diversity.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> I have posted on many occasions that the majority of my friends growing up in Toronto were not white, they were Asian and Jewish with white friends being in the minority so I share something in common with The Saint.<br /> <br /> As for Roy Whyte's comments about my supposed racism--he deserves to be arrested by his own RCMP for defamation of my character.<br /> <br />



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[QUOTE BY= Samuel] The problem, Roy Whyte, is that immigrants are granted a PRIVILEGE to ADOPT and PARTICIPATE in Canada's cultural heritage while maintaining theirs, not the other way around. You're from BC, you should know English has become a minority language in some urban centers in Canada for Christ's sake. What the hell is that all about, I suppose that too makes you a proud multiculturalist? Irresponsible people like you in positions of power have abused immigration and allowed these people to hijack Canada's society with their lousy management of immigration. Goddamned Liberals and liberal minded saps.<br /> <br /> Go to <b><a href="http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/francais/index.html">Immigration Québec</a></b>, the ONE unavoidable prerequisite for an immigrant is:<br /> <br /> <i>You, and your spouse, if applicable, must have foremost knowledge of French. The assessment of your immigration application will take into account your schooling, experience and knowledge of French.</i><br /> <br /> I couldn't find such a prerequisite at Immigration Canada. That, of course, would of prevented Liberals from flooding the country with unmanaged immigrants prior to elections. Now they're in, don't speak a word of English and you've got RCMP officers wearing<br /> turbans [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Call me a liberal if you like, if being a liberal means being compassionate and open minded - I don't mind one iota.<br /> <br /> When it comes to languages think it through now - all institutions in Canada deal in French or English. If they refuse to learn either, they will make lives harder for themselves. For those about to jump on that and say -wait they offer translation services etc. Why yes they do, and it makes for employment paid for by the very immigrants' taxation on their earnings while being here. Beyond that, knowing more than one language is an asset. I am trying my best to learn Cantonese, Tagalog and Mandarin, not because those around me are in larger numbers speaking those languages, but because it makes me a better person, expands my horizons, and increases the likelyhood that my future worth will be vastly increased as with any accumulated knowledge.<br /> <br /> Not one person here has bothered to even to try to explain just what white culture is, what Canadian culture is, and who is the overall judge of what both of those are? Without that as even the starting point of your arguments, how can you base all the extra extrapulations you are making on anything sound?<br /> <br /> It's human nature to resist change, I acknowledge that. Same with the heritage aspect. But heritage is what we make of it. We are creating a new heritage in our nation by the inclusion of other people. 200 years from now Canada will still exist. It's face will be a multi-cultural one, and save for the references in the history books of the day, events such as the arguments we are having will be just a memory.<br /> <br /> You know if I was of the First Nations and I was reading this thread I would be irate. They had many different thriving cultures long before the white man showed up, and still do. So why should the conqueror's culture make for the sole basis of the nation? We certainly would be up in arms if any country today invaded another then dictated that the former must adhere to the occupiers cultural/ethnic etc aspects of how things are going to be. Might does not make right, though sadly in Canada, it pretty much has.<br /> <br /> Neither has my question of asking for quantifiable evidence of any degredation of Canadian society been answered. Sikhs being able to wear turbans instead of stetsons in the RCMP, or ESL classes hardly qualify as country destroying events. The RCMP still exists, and school kids are still learning. <br /> <br /> [QUOTE]immigrants are granted a PRIVILEGE to ADOPT and PARTICIPATE in Canada's cultural heritage while maintaining theirs, not the other way around.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> That is at least an intelligent thought, but it does not answer what Canada's cultural heritage is. Who's heritage? Who decides and why? All over the first world heritage is constantly changing. History as we see in our argument is but a blip in the larger context of time. Europeans have seen their borders shift, and with that also the movements of people of various cultural and ethnic backgrounds throughout their histories. THAT makes for their current heritage as it stands now. Or maybe Germany for instance should still worship Wodan or Donar and call for blood sacrifice and base all their current laws and regulations on those? See the absurdity of that? With time their culture changed - Germany still exists does it not!<br /> <br /> Simply put - things change - get used to it.



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Um perturbed to be defamed you have to have some fame to begin with. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/lol.gif' alt='Laughing Out Loud'>



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[QUOTE]irresponsible people like you in positions of power[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> I wish I had power! I am but a lowly organizer for the Green Party, spend my few dimes on a news website and soon to be radio/ internet TV show, and live my life like anyone else. Only I put my feet, money and ass where my mouth is and get involved first hand in politics. Power... wouldn't want it if I could. Change comes from example, not by force. Those that force themselves on others are always doomed to fail. History has proven that in spades. Hence why I take exception to those dictating their beliefs over others. In the middle we will find our answers.



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First of all, Roy, I hope that I’m not being too presumptuous in congratulating you on seeking to be your girlfriend’s fiancé. Embarking upon marriage is certainly proof positive of optimism for the future, in spite of the concerns that you’ve expressed about your current government, a particular subset of wealthy North Americans, &c.<br /> <br /> Having read the article, it seems as though the main complicating factor in this case is the two-year-old sister, who due to <i>jus soli</i> is a Canadian citizen. (That sentence in the article doesn’t clearly identify whether the grandparents are Canadian or not; I’m presuming that they aren’t.) Since she was born in Canada, she isn’t a Costa Rican citizen unless her parents have registered her as a citizen in the Civil Register of Costa Rica. If she hasn’t been so registered yet, then her only citizenship is Canadian, and that might be one reason why the authorities are hesitant about deporting a citizen who has broken no laws, other family members notwithstanding.<br /> <br /> On Perturbed’s initial break-in comparison, the analogy might be closer to <i>I sneaked into your house and cleaned your bathrooms</i> — the house could well be in better shape due to the actions of the trespasser, but do the ends justify the means? Regarding illegal immigrants otherwise being law-abiding, I believe that Roy would say Aye, and that Perturbed and The Saint (and perhaps Samuel) would say Nay.<br /> <br /> Perturbed, see <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/05/12/harper-immigrants.html">here</a> for Harper’s quote on needing more immigrants. Presumably his government’s halving of the landing fee is meant to spur further immigration?<br /> <br /> Perhaps one reason that both Liberals and Conservatives desire further immigration is to eventually reduce USAmerican economic influence by creating an economy that’s less dependent upon exports to the USA?<br /> <br /> As an outsider, I find it interesting that Perturbed’s stated concern is about <i>English culture</i>, while Roy’s replies focus on <i>white culture</i>. Perturbed, one could interpret some of your comments (particularly the “supercedes” comment) as being completely unconcerned with Canadian “French culture”. Roy, would you clarify what you mean by “white culture”, both yours and what you’ve perceived Perturbed’s to be?



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[QUOTE]I will respond to the Saint - at least he makes a civil argument. No the majority of my words were aimed at perturbed. [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> I do resent that as my posts (though I may be a bit blunter than The Saint) are logical and quite civil. <br /> <br /> This is contrasted Roy by your name calling.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE]But to you, please show how and why white culture should be the basis of this great nation? [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Because it created this great nation and is just as deserving of a country as any other race or culture.<br /> <br /> You also minimize the importance of demographics in making this country great--we will not stay great if we import those who have failed to create societies of their own that are worth living in.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE]My white culture will survive even if we become the minority in this nation. I don't feel threatened in the least by the change that is coming. [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> How is this argument logical? The logical conclusion of becoming a minority is disappearing eventually, not surviving. You also talk about marrying a Filipina--if you had kids with a Filipina then your offspring would not be white, so how is that conducive to survival? It is the opposite..<br /> <br /> [QUOTE]Canada is always ranked as one of the most desirable places to live because so many of us are open to others. [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> That doesn't make it desirable for Canadians--it makes it desirable for the immigrants who want to move to Canada and laugh at how easy it is to get here.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE]That matters, for if we cut off immigrants we will have a declining population. We would cease to be a middle power if we allow that to happen. That is a rational concern based on fact.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Umm, Canada's population is aging, not dropping. It will still grow unti 2020 (I can prove this) without any immigration, and as The Saint pointed out Canada's immigrants are OLDER on average than our host population, so immigrants will not prevent our population problem--promoting childbirth will. Encouraging Canadian to have more kids would do it quite easily. This would mean preventing outsourcing of jobs that will help people support a family and the competition provided by massive immigration for jobs.<br /> <br /> <br /> [QUOTE]How is allowing immigrants destroying Canada as you say? There is zero quantifiable proof of that.[/QUOTE] <br /> <br /> You have to explain what you mean by destroy. You probably aren't old enough to remember the way Canada used to be. Nor am I but I see pits and pieces here and there.<br /> <br /> [QUOTE]The only people making hay are those who don't immigrants. Perturbed trotted out the old adage of crime rates where there are lots of immigrants.[/QUOTE] <br /> <br /> Actually this time it was The Saint who mentioned crime rates not me--careful now. <br /> <br /> <br /> [QUOTE]I invite both of you to come to my neighbourhood (Whalley BC) and see all the criminals are white, born in Canada, and as you say of the so called upper stock. It's a fallacy to blame crime on any one ethnic group. The reason for crime and the always underlying poverty is multi-faceted, but sadly has been seized upon by the select few to further their facetious argument. [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> INTERPOL has international statistics on crime of every sort. You should look them up if you want reliable statistics.<br /> <br /> <br /> [QUOTE]And in the end, I am glad to say my white culture is different from yours and perturbed.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> You speak the same language. Multiculturalism is not white culture, it is multiracial culture. There is no in between.<br /> <br />



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[QUOTE BY= Samuel] The problem, Roy Whyte, is that immigrants are granted a PRIVILEGE to ADOPT and PARTICIPATE in Canada's cultural heritage while maintaining theirs, not the other way around. You're from BC, you should know English has become a minority language in some urban centers in Canada for Christ's sake. What the hell is that all about, I suppose that too makes you a proud multiculturalist? Irresponsible people like you in positions of power have abused immigration and allowed these people to hijack Canada's society with their lousy management of immigration. Goddamned Liberals and liberal minded saps.<br /> <br /> Go to <b><a href="http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/francais/index.html">Immigration Québec</a></b>, the ONE unavoidable prerequisite for an immigrant is:<br /> <br /> <i>You, and your spouse, if applicable, must have foremost knowledge of French. The assessment of your immigration application will take into account your schooling, experience and knowledge of French.</i><br /> <br /> I couldn't find such a prerequisite at Immigration Canada. That, of course, would of prevented Liberals from flooding the country with unmanaged immigrants prior to elections. Now they're in, don't speak a word of English and you've got RCMP officers wearing<br /> turbans [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> <br /> I respect what you say Samuel, but I still think Quebec though it does have better policies is still globalist and flawed. <br /> <br /> Quebec still treats all people as equals, as long as they know French. Remember what happened to the French colonists in Haiti after it was granted independence--they were killed off by those patriotic French-speaking Haitians. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/mrgreen.gif' alt='Mr. Green'>



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[QUOTE BY= Roy_Whyte] [QUOTE]irresponsible people like you in positions of power[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> I wish I had power! I am but a lowly organizer for the Green Party, spend my few dimes on a news website and soon to be radio/ internet TV show, and live my life like anyone else. Only I put my feet, money and ass where my mouth is and get involved first hand in politics. Power... wouldn't want it if I could. Change comes from example, not by force. Those that force themselves on others are always doomed to fail. History has proven that in spades. Hence why I take exception to those dictating their beliefs over others. In the middle we will find our answers.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Oh I thought you were into the Canadian Action Party--that's who I voted for last election.



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[QUOTE BY= Roy_Whyte] [QUOTE BY= Samuel] The problem, Roy Whyte, is that immigrants are granted a PRIVILEGE to ADOPT and PARTICIPATE in Canada's cultural heritage while maintaining theirs, not the other way around. You're from BC, you should know English has become a minority language in some urban centers in Canada for Christ's sake. What the hell is that all about, I suppose that too makes you a proud multiculturalist? Irresponsible people like you in positions of power have abused immigration and allowed these people to hijack Canada's society with their lousy management of immigration. Goddamned Liberals and liberal minded saps.<br /> <br /> Go to <b><a href="http://www.immigration-quebec.gouv.qc.ca/francais/index.html">Immigration Québec</a></b>, the ONE unavoidable prerequisite for an immigrant is:<br /> <br /> <i>You, and your spouse, if applicable, must have foremost knowledge of French. The assessment of your immigration application will take into account your schooling, experience and knowledge of French.</i><br /> <br /> I couldn't find such a prerequisite at Immigration Canada. That, of course, would of prevented Liberals from flooding the country with unmanaged immigrants prior to elections. Now they're in, don't speak a word of English and you've got RCMP officers wearing<br /> turbans [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Call me a liberal if you like, if being a liberal means being compassionate and open minded - I don't mind one iota.<br /> <br /> When it comes to languages think it through now - all institutions in Canada deal in French or English. If they refuse to learn either, they will make lives harder for themselves. For those about to jump on that and say -wait they offer translation services etc. Why yes they do, and it makes for employment paid for by the very immigrants' taxation on their earnings while being here. Beyond that, knowing more than one language is an asset. I am trying my best to learn Cantonese, Tagalog and Mandarin, not because those around me are in larger numbers speaking those languages, but because it makes me a better person, expands my horizons, and increases the likelyhood that my future worth will be vastly increased as with any accumulated knowledge.<br /> <br /> Not one person here has bothered to even to try to explain just what white culture is, what Canadian culture is, and who is the overall judge of what both of those are? Without that as even the starting point of your arguments, how can you base all the extra extrapulations you are making on anything sound?<br /> <br /> It's human nature to resist change, I acknowledge that. Same with the heritage aspect. But heritage is what we make of it. We are creating a new heritage in our nation by the inclusion of other people. 200 years from now Canada will still exist. It's face will be a multi-cultural one, and save for the references in the history books of the day, events such as the arguments we are having will be just a memory.<br /> <br /> You know if I was of the First Nations and I was reading this thread I would be irate. They had many different thriving cultures long before the white man showed up, and still do. So why should the conqueror's culture make for the sole basis of the nation? We certainly would be up in arms if any country today invaded another then dictated that the former must adhere to the occupiers cultural/ethnic etc aspects of how things are going to be. Might does not make right, though sadly in Canada, it pretty much has.<br /> <br /> Neither has my question of asking for quantifiable evidence of any degredation of Canadian society been answered. Sikhs being able to wear turbans instead of stetsons in the RCMP, or ESL classes hardly qualify as country destroying events. The RCMP still exists, and school kids are still learning. <br /> <br /> [QUOTE]immigrants are granted a PRIVILEGE to ADOPT and PARTICIPATE in Canada's cultural heritage while maintaining theirs, not the other way around.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> That is at least an intelligent thought, but it does not answer what Canada's cultural heritage is. Who's heritage? Who decides and why? All over the first world heritage is constantly changing. History as we see in our argument is but a blip in the larger context of time. Europeans have seen their borders shift, and with that also the movements of people of various cultural and ethnic backgrounds throughout their histories. THAT makes for their current heritage as it stands now. Or maybe Germany for instance should still worship Wodan or Donar and call for blood sacrifice and base all their current laws and regulations on those? See the absurdity of that? With time their culture changed - Germany still exists does it not!<br /> <br /> Simply put - things change - get used to it.[/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> <br /> Nice try Roy. You speak out against using force but our government has done just that. They have forced multiculturalism down our throats. You tell us to get used to change but we will never get used to forced change. Nice try.<br /> <br /> <br /> I would try to explain what white culture is, what Canadian culture is, but Susan would get mad at me so I refrain as it is her site. <img align=absmiddle src='images/smilies/wink.gif' alt='Wink'> <br /> <br />



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[QUOTE BY= Roy_Whyte] Um perturbed to be defamed you have to have some fame to begin with. [/QUOTE]<br /> <br /> Okay fine, how about insulted? You are very quick to play the race card--that is a racial epithet in itself.



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