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http://worldtruth.tv/where-the-worlds-u ... go-to-die/

All I have to say here is WOW! 8O

I had no idea how bad the recession was until I looked at the different places in the world where all these new, unsold cars are stored.

Just 8O

On the poll question please say what you're willing to spend right now to buy a new car in the current economy.

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In the past several years, one of the topics covered in detail on these pages has been the surge in such gimmicks designed to disguise lack of demand and end customer sales, used extensively by US automotive manufacturers, better known as “channel stuffing”, of which General Motors is particularly guilty and whose inventory at dealer lots just hit a new record high. But did you know that when it comes to flat or declining sales and stagnant end demand, channel stuffing is merely the beginning?

Presenting…

Where the World’s Unsold Cars Go To Die

Above is just a few of the thousands upon thousands of unsold cars at Sheerness, United Kingdom. Please do see this on Google Maps….type in Sheerness, United Kingdom. Look to the west coast, below River Thames next to River Medway. Left of A249, Brielle Way.

Timestamp: Friday, May 16th, 2014.

There are hundreds of places like this in the world today and they keep on piling up…

THE WORLDS UNSOLD CAR STOCKPILE

Houston…We have a problem!…Nobody is buying brand new cars anymore! Well they are, but not on the scale they once were. Millions of brand new unsold cars are just sitting redundant on runways and car parks around the world. There, they stay, slowly deteriorating without being maintained.

Below is an image of a massive car park at Swindon, United Kingdom, with thousands upon thousands of unsold cars just sitting there with not a buyer in sight. The car manufacturers have to buy more and more land just to park their cars as they perpetually roll off the production line.

There is proof that the worlds recession is still biting and wont let go. All around the world there are huge stockpiles of unsold cars and they are being added to every day. They have run out of space to park all of these brand new unsold cars and are having to buy acres and acres of land to store them.

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The images on this webpage showing all of these unsold cars are just a very small portion of those around the world. There are literally thousands of these “car parks” rammed full of unsold cars in practically every country on the planet. Just in case you were wondering, these images have not been Photo-shopped, they are the real deal!

Its hard to believe that there are so many unsold cars in the world but its true. The worse part is that the amount of unsold cars keeps on getting bigger every day.

It would be fair to say that it is becoming a mechanical epidemic of epic proportions. If anybody from outer space is reading this webpage, we here on Earth have too many cars, why not come and buy a few hundred thousand of them for your own planet! (sorry but this is all I can think of)

Below is shown just a few of the 57,000 cars (and growing) that await delivery from their home in the Port of Baltimore, Maryland, U.S.A. With Google Maps look South of Broening Hwy in Dundalk for the massive expanse of space where all these cars are parked up.

The car industry would never sell these cars at massive reductions in their prices to get rid of them, no they still want every buck. If they were to price these cars for a couple of thousand they would sell them. However, nobody would then buy any expensive cars and then they would end up being unsold. Its quite a pickle we have gotten ourselves into.

Below is shown an image of the Nissan test track in Sunderland United Kingdom. Only it is no longer being used, reason…there are too many unsold cars parked up on it! The amount of cars keeps on piling up on it until its overflowing. Nissan then acquires more land to park up the cars, as they continue to come off the production line.

UPDATE: Currently May 16th, 2014, all of these cars at the Nissan Sunderland test track have disappeared? Now I don’t believe they have all suddenly been sold. I would guess they may have been taken away and recycled to make room for the next vast production run.

Indeed next to that test track and adjacent to the Nissan factory, they are collating again as shown on the Google Maps image below. So where did the last lot go? This is not an employees car park by the way.

None of the images on this webpage are of ordinary car parks at shopping malls, football matches etc. Trust me, they are just mountains and mountains of brand spanking new unsold cars. There is no real reason why you should be driving an old clunker now is there?

The car industry cannot stop making new cars because they would have to close their factories and lay off tens of thousands of employees. This would further add to the recession. Also the domino effect would be catastrophic as steel manufactures would not sell their steel. All the tens of thousands of places where car components are made would also be effected, indeed the world could come to a grinding halt.

Below is shown just a small area of a gigantic car park in Spain where tens of thousands of cars just sit and sunbathe all day.

They are also piling up at the port of Valencia in Spain as seen below. They are either waiting to be exported to…nowhere or have been imported…to go nowhere.

Tens of thousands of cars are still being made every week but hardly any of them are being sold. Nearly every household in developed countries already has a car or even two or three cars parked up on their driveway as it is.

Below is an image of thousands upon thousands of unsold cars parked up on a runway near St Petersburg in Russia. They are all imported from Europe, they are all then parked up and they are all then left to rot. Consequently, the airport is now unusable for its original purpose.

The cycle of buying, using, buying using has been broken, it is now just a case of “using” with no buying. Below is an image of thousands of unsold cars parked up on an disused runway at Upper Heyford, Bicester, Oxfordshire. They are seriously running out of space to store these cars.

It is a sorry state of affairs and there is no answer to it, solutions don’t exist. So the cars just keep on being manufactured and keep on adding to the millions of unsold cars already sitting redundant around the world.

Below are parked tens of thousands of cars at Royal Portbury Docks, Avonmouth, near Bristol in the United Kingdom. If you look on Google Maps and scan around the area at say 200ft you will see nothing but parked up unsold cars. They are absolutely everywhere in that area practically every open space has unsold cars parked up on it.

Below is that same area in Avonmouth, UK, but zoomed out. Every gray space that you see is filled with unsold cars. Anyone want to hazard a guess at how many are there…

As it is, there are more cars than there are people on the planet with an estimated 10 billion roadworthy cars in the world today.

We literally cannot make enough of them. Below are seen just a few of the thousands of Citroen’s parked up at Corby, Northamptonshire in England. They are being added to daily, imported from France but with nowhere else to go once they arrive.

So there they sit, brand spanking new cars, all with a couple of miles on the clock that was consummate with them being driven to their car parks. Below is the latest May 2014 Google Maps image of unsold cars in Corby, Northamptonshire.

Manufacturing more cars than can be sold is against all logic, logistics and economics but it continues day after day, week after week, month after month, year in year out.

Below is shown a recent (April 2014) screen grab from Google Maps of the Italian port of Civitavecchia. All those little specks are a few thousand brand new unsold Peugeots. Just collecting dust and maybe a bit of salty sea spray!

Below, all nice and shiny but with nowhere to go. Red and white and black and silver, purple, pink and blue, all the colors of the rainbow and be they all brand new. Indeed all the colors of the rainbow are down there on those cars, making pretty mosaics, montages of color and still life. Maybe that is all they will now ever be, surreal urban art of the techno production age. Magnificent metal boxes, wasting space and saving grace, all sitting still, because its business at mill.

All around the world these cars just keep on piling up, there is no end in sight. The economy shouts out quite loud that nobody has the money anymore to spend on a new car. The reason being that they are making their “old” cars go on a lot longer. But we cannot stop making them, soon we will run out of space to park them. We are nearly running out of space to drive them that’s for sure!

Below, more cars mount up in the port of Valencia in Spain. They will not be exported as there is nowhere for them to go, so they just sit and rot in their colorful droves.

Gone are the days when the family would have a new car every year, they are now keeping what they have got. It may be fair to say that some families still get a new car every year but its the majority that now do not.

The results are in these images, hundreds of thousands if not millions of cars around the world are driven from their factories, parked up and left.

Could we say that these cars have been left to rot! Maybe, as these cars will certainly rot if they are not bought, driven and cared for. It does not look like they will be sold any day soon, many of them have been standing for over 12 months or even longer and this is detrimental to the car.

Below, as far as the eye can see, right into the background, cars, cars and more cars. But what’s beyond the horizon? Have a guess…Yes that’s right…even more cars! All brand new but with no homes to go to. Do you think they will ever start giving them away, that may be the only radical solution. Who knows, you could soon be getting a free car with every packet of cornflakes.

When a car is left standing idle, all the oil sinks to the bottom of the sump, and then corrosion begins to set in on all the internal engine parts where the oil has drained away.

Cold corrosion is when condensation builds up in the cylinders and rust forms in the bores. The engines would then start to seize and would need to be professionally freed before they could be started. Also the tires start to lose air and the batteries start to go flat, indeed the detrimental list goes on and on.

So the longer they sit there the worse it slowly becomes for them. What is the answer to this? Well they need to be sold and that just isn’t happening.

The epidemic is not improving, it is getting worse. Car manufactureres are constantly coming out with new models with the latest technology in them. Hence prospective buyers of, for example, a new Citroen Xsara Picasso want the latest model, not last years model. Hence all the unsold Citroen Xsara Picasso cars from the previous year will now have even lesser chance of being sold.

The problems then just keep on mounting up. In the end, the unsold cars that are say 2 years old will have no alternative but to be either crushed up, dismantled and/or their parts recycled.

Some car manufacturers moved their production over to China, General Motors and Cadillac are examples of this. They are then shipped over in containers and unloaded at ports. However they are now being told to put a big halt in their import into the U.S.A. as they just can’t sell them in the quantities they would desire. Consequently Chinese car parks are now filling up with brand new American cars. Well nobody in China can afford them on their meagre pittance wages, so there they will stay until our economy improves…which it might do in a few generations.


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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 10:34 am
 


[huh]

Aren't those pictures of the Atlanta and UK facilities where cars are stored prior to import/export?


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Aren't those pictures of the Atlanta and UK facilities where cars are stored prior to import/export?


I imagine so. But given that the industry standard is just in time shipping there shouldn't be any cars parked there at all.


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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 10:58 am
 


Don't you wish you could walk up to one of those places and just here's $500 I'll take that one and drive off with a new car.


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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 11:06 am
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
[huh]

Aren't those pictures of the Atlanta and UK facilities where cars are stored prior to import/export?


I imagine so. But given that the industry standard is just in time shipping there shouldn't be any cars parked there at all.


They have to be parked somewhere before they get put on ships (or taken off). The way 'just in time' works though is parts arrive when they are about to be assembled into cars. The cars don't get built to begin with unless they get dealer orders. So they shouldn't have been assembled unless they were built to fulfill a dealer order, and they wouldn't be sitting there unless they were waiting to be shipped (or just arrived from overseas).


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
http://worldtruth.tv/where-the-worlds-unsold-cars-go-to-die/

All I have to say here is WOW! 8O

I had no idea how bad the recession was until I looked at the different places in the world where all these new, unsold cars are stored.

Just 8O

On the poll question please say what you're willing to spend right now to buy a new car in the current economy.


The article is a little too exaggerated for my liking. Frankly, it's a load of crap.

They make it out like people aren't buying new cars anymore and they just sit around for years collecting dust. It's utterly false.

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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 11:17 am
 


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Don't you wish you could walk up to one of those places and just here's $500 I'll take that one and drive off with a new car.


Never happen. The car companies figure in some of the cost of unsold cars into the price of new vehicles so selling them at a major loss wouldn't be all that profitable, plus they'd loose out on making you buy a new vehicle at full price if that's what you wanted.

Go take a look at the dealership's used car lot. You wont' find much of a difference in price between a new vehicle and one that's a year or two old and the reason for this that the dealerships make their money off warranty service so it behooves them to sell new vehicles, not used vehicles, which is why they try and entice you with a cheaper than expected costs to purchase that new vehicle as opposed to the used one.

The problem with this trend of thought is that they're driving alot of small repair shops out of business because not only do they make their money from maintenance on new vehicles they now compete cost wise with those same independents on the used vehicle market.


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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 11:22 am
 


^^ What he said. I'm calling shenanigans too.

The tail lights in the SUVs in that article are at least 2008 model year.

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Current looks like these:

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Go take a look at the dealership's used car lot. You wont' find much of a difference in price between a new vehicle and one that's a year or two old and the reason for this that the dealerships make their money off warranty service so it behooves them to sell new vehicles, not used vehicles, which is why they try and entice you with a cheaper than expected costs to purchase that new vehicle as opposed to the used one.


Incorrect, FOG.

Profit margin is on the used inventory, not new. Average gross on a used car is roughly 3-4k while 1-2k on new cars. Even with add-ons like warranties, etc, it doesn't match the average gross of a used vehicle.

Warranty sales are way down compared to years past. Some dealers are off 40% in warranty claims because the cars at all manufacturers are that much better.


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^^ What he said. I'm calling shenanigans too.

The tail lights in the SUVs in that article are at least 2008 model year.


That's not even the same vehicle.

The picture above it the Dodge Durango, you posted a picture of a Caliber.


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^^ What he said. I'm calling shenanigans too.

The tail lights in the SUVs in that article are at least 2008 model year.


That's not even the same vehicle.

The picture above it the Dodge Durango, you posted a picture of a Caliber.


Couldn't find a pic of a Durango, but Chrysler/Jeep tends to use the same styling cues on entire lines of vehicles. That tail light was 2005-2009 IIRC.

I can tell you the model/year of many sport cars given a 'side boob' shot of the front air dam only, but SUV's . . not so much. ;)


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DrCaleb DrCaleb:
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^^ What he said. I'm calling shenanigans too.

The tail lights in the SUVs in that article are at least 2008 model year.


That's not even the same vehicle.

The picture above it the Dodge Durango, you posted a picture of a Caliber.


Couldn't find a pic of a Durango, but Chrysler/Jeep tends to use the same styling cues on entire lines of vehicles. That tail light was 2005-2009 IIRC.

I can tell you the model/year of many sport cars given a 'side boob' shot of the front air dam only, but SUV's . . not so much. ;)


Very true. Especially interior parts.


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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2014 11:42 am
 


Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
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Don't you wish you could walk up to one of those places and just here's $500 I'll take that one and drive off with a new car.


Never happen. The car companies figure in some of the cost of unsold cars into the price of new vehicles so selling them at a major loss wouldn't be all that profitable, plus they'd loose out on making you buy a new vehicle at full price if that's what you wanted.

Go take a look at the dealership's used car lot. You wont' find much of a difference in price between a new vehicle and one that's a year or two old and the reason for this that the dealerships make their money off warranty service so it behooves them to sell new vehicles, not used vehicles, which is why they try and entice you with a cheaper than expected costs to purchase that new vehicle as opposed to the used one.

The problem with this trend of thought is that they're driving alot of small repair shops out of business because not only do they make their money from maintenance on new vehicles they now compete cost wise with those same independents on the used vehicle market.


Way to crush someone's (my) dream :lol:


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Some people pay huge amounts of money for something that they think makes them look cool, but it just looks like they know nothing, and they will pay an extra bunch of thousands for a heated vibrating seat, all kinds of extra crap to screw up, and a dvd so their kids don't ever look out the window to learn how to drive.
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Some people pay huge amounts of money for something that they think makes them look cool, but it just looks like they know nothing, and they will pay an extra bunch of thousands for a heated vibrating seat, all kinds of extra crap to screw up, and a dvd so their kids don't ever look out the window to learn how to drive.
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Indeed.

Put a gold badge on a Chevy Suburban, paint it black, tint the windows, and you can hike up the price by $10,000 to $25,000 by calling it a 'Cadillac Escalade'.

Speaking of which, here's the new commercial for the Escalade in which they seem to be selling it to black people with the inferred idea that if you have an Escalade you'll be right up there with cool people like an Egyptian Pharoah who got carried around on the backs of Jewish slaves. Forgive me if I'm not at all comfortable with the message in this ad:



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